The (only) external link in my last post would appear to be a good place to start. Of course chapter 5 should be read in context with the rest of Livingstone's book.
Livingstone is a (converted) Muslim by the way, so it doesn't surprise me that you disagree. Earlier in this thread I have already posted a link to his book "Terrorism and the illuminati":
Firestarter wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:10 pmDavid Livingstone has a new book, website out. While I find it frustrating that the links I posted to his old website (Conspiracyschool.com) were taken offline, his new book is a decent collection of information…
I’ve just read the 17 chapters of Volume 1 of his new book Ordo ab chao. In my opinion Chapter 5 on the Haplogroup R1a is the most interesting. Maybe I’ll post more later from the following 6 volumes of his book (according to Livingstone himself compiled after 30 years of “research”).
I've earlier posted on an article by the same scientist (if I remember correctly in your Ashkenazi thread).
Doron M. Behar et al. – Multiple Origins of Ashkenazi Levites: Y Chromosome Evidence for Both Near Eastern and European Ancestries (2003): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180600/
David Livingstone just like just about anybody else, doesn't know the definition(s) of Jews. Livingstone has obviously found sources that claim so (possibly written in support of the claim that Ashkenazis are Jews)...notmartha wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:42 amWhat "Ancient Jewish sources" say the lost 10 tribes of Israel were Scythians?
Gog and Magog are not Israelites. I'm missing the connection...
More on the Ashkenazi here: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewto ... =23&t=1375
In general I'm no fan of copy-pasting large excerpts from somebody else's text. The numbered references can be found at the bottom of the ordoabchao.ca link.
In 721 BC, when the northern Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Assyrians, after that time the Ten Tribes who had been living there were dispersed to land of the Medes, in Iran and Armenia, and were henceforth considered “lost.” Paradoxically, the Medes, whom Herodotus called Arian, were made out by scholars of the Enlightenment to be the ancestors of the Europeans, the pure-bred Aryans. The Medes, according to Greek mythology, were descended from Medea the Colchian witch from the story of Jason and the Argonauts and his quest for the Golden Fleece. According to the legend, Medea later married Aegeas of Athens after whom the Aegean Sea is named. And though the Medes were associated with numerous theories connected with the ancient white Aryans, according to a description by Herodotus, the Colchians who dwelt in a land located along the western slope of the Caucasus Mountains near the Black Sea, in what is now the state of Georgia, were black and probably Jewish. Like the Jews of Palestine whom he referred to as “Phoenicians,” Herodotus also regarded the people of Colchis as deriving from an “Egyptian colony.” He not only pointed to the Colchians’ “black skin and woolly hair” as evidence, but also to their oral traditions, language, methods of weaving, and practice of circumcision. Saint Jerome, writing during the fourth century AD, called Colchis the “Second Ethiopia.”
Although the Ten Tribes were considered “lost,” ancient Jewish sources explained them to be the Scythians situated in Southern Russia and Central Asia. According to the ancient Jewish historian Josephus, “…the Ten Tribes are beyond the Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude, whose numbers cannot be estimated.” The Scythians, a people of today’s East Ukraine to the lower Don basin, commonly associated with the Lost Tribes of Israel, were the originators of the haplogroup R-M17, also known as R1a1. Josephus and others have also identified the Scythians as the descendants of Gog and Magog, among whom they would have been absorbed.
In the Alexander Romance, in an account that parallels a similar one in the Quran, Alexander the Great chases his enemies to a pass between two peaks in the Caucasus. With the aid of God, Alexander and his men close the narrow pass in the Caucasus by constructing a huge wall of steel, keeping the barbarous Gog and Magog from pillaging the peaceful southern lands. The Travels of Sir John Mandeville, a travel memoir which first circulated between 1357 and 1371, explicitly associates the nations confined by Alexander with the Ten Lost Tribes. The Ten Lost Tribes had come to be identified with Gog and Magog sometime around the twelfth century, and possibly the first to do so was Petrus Comestor in his Historica Scholastica (c. 1169–1173).
In Asia, the development of the Romance was profoundly affected by the so-called Christian Legend Concerning Alexander, an apocalyptic work not known in the West, until a Syriac version was published only in recent times. The contents of the legend, describing Alexander’s exploits in the land of the rising sun, are summarized in a brief introductory heading:
An exploit by Alexander, the son of Philip the Macedonian, how he went forth to the ends of the world, and made a gate of iron, and shut it in the face of the north wind, that the Huns might not come forth to spoil the countries: from the manuscripts in the house of the archives of the Kings of Alexandria.
Kevin Alan Brook, among others, has speculated that the legend of the Red Jews was actually based on a vague memory of the Khazars, descendants of the Scythians who converted to Judaism in the eighth century AD. Christian of Stavelot, a ninth-century Christian monk, in Expositio in Matthaeum Evangelistam refers to the Khazars as Hunnic descendants of Gog and Magog, who had been “enclosed” by Alexander, but who had since escaped. Arab traveler ibn Fadlan also reported this belief, writing around 921 AD, he recorded that “Some hold the opinion that Gog and Magog are the Khazars.” Several Medieval rabbis and Jewish Torah scholars began to locate the Ten Lost Tribes, but the location greatly varied. Maimonides wrote: “…I believe the Ten Tribes to be in various parts of Europe.” Moses ben Isaac Edrehi (1774–1842), a Moroccan-born rabbi and Kabbalist, also believed the Lost Tribes of Israel were located in Europe, writing in his Historical Account Of The Ten Tribes (1836):
…Orteleus, that great geographer, giving the description of Tartary, notices the kingdom of Arsareth, where the Ten Tribes, retiring, succeeded [other] Scythian inhabitants, and took the name Gauther [Goths], because they were very jealous for the glory of God. In another place, he found the Naphtalites, who had their hordes there. He also discovered the tribe of Dan in the north, which has preserved its name. …They further add, that the remains of ancient Israel were more numerous here than in Muscovy and Poland - from which it was concluded, that their habitation was fixed in Tartary [ie Scythia] from whence they passed into neighbouring places… it is no wonder to find the Ten Tribes dispersed there; since it was no great way to go from Assyria, whither they were transplanted, having only Armenia betwixt them.
In the Fourth Book of Ezra, the Ten Tribes were said to have been carried by Hosea in the eighth century BC to the Euphrates, at the narrow passages of the river. From there they went on a journey of a year and a half to a place called “Arzareth,” referring to the Araxes, a river that borders Armenia, Iran and Azerbaijan. The Araxes river is related to the legend of Sambatyon, which according to rabbinic literature, is the river beyond which the Lost Tribes were exiled, observing the laws of Moses, until the time of the restoration. The river rages with rapids and throws up stones six days a week, but stops flowing every Sabbath, the day Jews are not allowed to travel. According to the twelfth century Arab historian Muhammad al-Idrisi, who lived in Palermo, at the court of King Roger II of Sicily, the city of Sarmel (Sarkel-on-the-Don) was situated on the River Al-Sabt (Sambat), which is the River Don. The name for Kiev, as given by Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus (905 – 959), is also Sambatas.
Arzareth or Arsareth is likely the same as Asgard, the legendary home of the Scandinavians and Saxons. Some etymologies proposed that the word Scythians, from “Sacae,” in turn is derived from “Isaac Sons” or “Sons of Isaac.” Strabo asserts that the most ancient Greek historians knew the Sacaea as a people who lived beyond the Caspian Sea. Ptolemy finds the Saxons in a race of Scythians, called Sakai, who came from Media. Pliny said: “The Sakai were among the most distinguished people of Scythia, who settled in Armenia, and were called Sacae-Sani.” Albinus, the learned tutor of Charlemagne, maintained that: “The Saxons were descended from the ancient Sacae of Asia.”