What is a Jural Society, and what is it for?

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notmartha
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Re: What is a Jural Society, and what is it for?

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Please continue, HarmonywoCompromise. A new thread would be great, as posts often go unnoticed when posted to a sticky. I didn't see them until now, and don't want others to miss out on a worthwhile read.
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Re: What is a Jural Society, and what is it for?

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I will make it simple for you. It is a group of people that join together to run a county just like it is done now, but Lawfully. That is the importance of a Christian jural society because God is the one that has the true laws.
Right now we are living under a de facto government. Roman Law It happened in 1871. Our country is now a corporation not a Republic. Got to go but I will catch you all later.
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I believe that a judiciary is the most important element of any civil society. I agree, the elements of common law, one which everyone in the society agrees to live by and which has been used historically to protect the rights of individuals, at least to some degree. The word "everyone" of course is where the conflict begins. That's where we must also decide on how to conduct a judiciary in addition to what should be the malum in se laws we all must agree to abide by and the rights that should not be usurped.

Would everyone agree that an unregulated Supreme Court as the final arbiter either elected or appointed in the realm of a nation state with enforcement via police powers is a bad idea? If you understand the the antithetic nature of individual rights and state powers determined by political means, that it has become a law by those who rule, rather than a rule of law, which we can all rely on, then perhaps we must look for alternatives.

I ask this question because the Irish Celts between about 650 AD after the fall of the Western Roman empire, they existed without the confines of a nation state, utilizing property rights as the common law. You also today have Zomia, a/k/a the S.E Asian Massif a land of about 970,000 sq. miles with about 100 million people located in the highlands of S.E. Asia that exists outside the jurisdictions of any nation state.

Assuming nation states are going to remain the primary vehicle at least in the short term, I have proposed a Citizens controlled Supreme Court Review Board (SCRB) but we also need the various State militias to step up as the enforcement arms as well as conducting the military tribunals to subvert the ongoing insurrection, by let's just call them the Swamp and Deep State. Without property rights, the majority within the civilian population are destined to be striped of their wealth through massive levels of taxation, regulatory fees, fines and penalties enacted and enforced by various State actors allowing for the fascism we are seeing today, the merger of State and corporate powers. A group called COINSOG, created some 35 years ago, is willing and able to provide the consultancy to the militias, but they are lacking both the knowledgeable leadership and membership to accomplishing anything significant. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights affords use these activities, but we must be able to accomplish them without those who are committing insurrection, treason and plots, from unlawfully stopping our actions.

Our goal is pretty simple and that is to take back, from those that have stolen the wealth of the majority, and give it back to those who are willing to participate in the endeavor of subverting the ongoing insurrection. We can of course provide the lawful statutory and constitutional remedies to accomplish this.

On the ongoing insurrection is stopped, it will be much easier to institute the SCRB but here is a basic outline and overview of the system; https://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/home/
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Re: What is a Jural Society, and what is it for?

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Would everyone agree that an unregulated Supreme Court as the final arbiter either elected or appointed in the realm of a nation state with enforcement via police powers is a bad idea? If you understand the the antithetic nature of individual rights and state powers determined by political means, that it has become a law by those who rule, rather than a rule of law, which we can all rely on, then perhaps we must look for alternatives.
Agree 100%. But the solution already exists in the American National system. The Superior court (at the county) is still over the "Supreme Court" of the United States. The U.S. is just a political jurisdiction of the District of Criminals (Columbia) and only overlays the continental united States of America thru voluntary contracting into it. All STATEs, are D.C. Corporations, but the de jure Constitutional Republics (and the rare Commonwealths) still exist. It all comes down to "equity wont aid a volunteer" (nobody held a gun to anyone's head and said you MUST Register a Name for your sons and daughters). It was a unilateral contract that the parents voluntarily signed and general deposited with the D.C. Corporate STATE and the baby became legally known as an "Infant" and the new PERSON created was a D.C. 14th Amendment Citizen and thus foreign "enemy of the States" (ie. the Republics).

The solution is very simple. Express a special (private) trust and record notice of it at the county level (establish one's own "court", define its jurisdiction "Under the original Trust of man's Creator" and only "domiciled" as a private trust AT a "foreign court" (i.e. the D.C. STATE). This is the "superior court" over any other court in the land, where the jurisdiction of the originating Trust is defined.

It's all about the "original trust"…
… any subsequent "trust" (within a trust) is subject to the original. Old Covenant was a Trust, and so was the New (or rather a reformation of the original trust: ie. the terms for justification before man's Creator changed) https://www.hisholychurch.org/study/tru ... stsch2.php
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Means anyone still playing "in law" under man's "judicial system" is missing the greater "relief" possible by holding man's counterfeit accountable to the Original Trust of man's Creator.
“Trusts within trusts: There is a maxim in law that a Trust within a trust cannot stand. A trust within a trust is subject to the terms of the original trust. This is one of the most important aspects to understand in the examination of trust laws, rules and statutes. A trust cannot create a trust that violates the original terms of a trust, if it attempts to do so it is a breach of trust and is a departure and therefore void. In understanding this basic precept of Law you will have unlocked a great secret of Creation, Authority and the workings of the Universe.”

Anyone who challenges a "maxim of law" is considered beyond the reach of reason, and thus subject to a competency hearing.
"The underlying principles, called Maxims... lie at the foundation of universal justice and are aptly called legum leges – the law of laws (have their foundation in universal law). These maxims are the beginnings, out of which developed the entire system of Equity jurisprudence. The student who has made these principles a part of his mental habit, who has incorporated them into his very intellectual being, has already mastered the essence of Equity. So fundamental are these maxims that he who disputes their authority is regarded as beyond the reach of reason." Henry Gibson, Suits in Chancery 1903
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