iamfreeru2 wrote:It is not a matter of personal jurisdiction, it is a matter of taking full responsibility, not limited liability.
The analogy was a bad one from the beginning. You originally were talking of two corporations, creations of State, the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts. They take full responsibility for nothing. Their creator makes the rules, decides the territory, and limits the liability. This does not apply to privately owned land of free inhabitants. If I was a cynic I'd wonder if you aren't trying to derail your own thread.
iamfreeru2 wrote:That interest must be proprietary. Statutes do not give government authority/jurisdiction anywhere other than federal property.
You confuse territories, possessions, federal areas, and federal property. They are not the same. Federal Areas do not have to be owned, and federal property does not have to be land.
iamfreeru2 wrote: I will say this again, Title 28 only applies in United States and nowhere else. Can you prove otherwise? I don't need some federal court of United States to tell me whether I am a foreign State. They do not have that jurisdiction.
I didn't cloak Title 28 with any authority to apply anywhere. I have posted what they claim and act on. And they will claim jurisdiction via your contacts whether you reside in the "United States" or not.
iamfreeru2 wrote:Yes, free inhabitants have the right to contract, but what free inhabitant would contract his unalienable rights away?
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic here or not. Do you remember the People in Samuel's time screaming for a king? Do you remember Esau? Has the nature of people changed? People (generally) have always chosen what was bad for them, trading their rights for a bowl of stew. It is no different today.
iamfreeru2 wrote:What does one have to doin order to become a US citizen, and no other way?
The statute you posted was in regards to aliens. They need to take an oath. Babies "born in the US "do not need to take any oath. They are citizens because their parents said they were. What is your point?
iamfreeru2 wrote:And what free inhabitant in his right mind would do such a things. Most people are ignorant and have no clue who or where they are. You believe if people knew government could not tax their private property that they would take the easy route? LOL!!! The problem is most people are confused, including you. I'm not saying this to disparage, just simply stating fact based on your posts.
Again, I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or if you are really that oblivious. Yes, I KNOW most people will knowingly choose to pay property taxes in exchange for the benefits of having a mortgage, home owners insurance, and a mailbox. No, they are not in their right mind. No, they shouldn't be participating in usury and surety. But the people will not give these things up, even if they know they have a choice. They will give them up when they are forced to, period.
Discrediting what I post as “patriot mythology” is bogus and off point. Calling me “confused” to poison the well is presumptuous and vindictive. You are entitled to your opinions, but they are not all truth, in spite of the fact that you portray yourself as having a corner on it. That aside, I hope readers believe nothing you or I say, but rather prayerfully do their own research and discern fact from fiction on their own. As this discussion is not going in a positive direction, I will end my part in it with these verses, and my final thoughts on the matter.
2 Corinthians 6:14-18 says:
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
A yoke, fellowship, communion, concord, part, and/or agreement are all forms of contacts. Unbelieving, unrighteous, dark, Belial, infidel, and idol all describe “this State”. If you think it is ok to “touch the unclean thing” by having contacts with ”this State” and that those contacts won’t put you on their jurisdictional plane, have at it! But as for me, I want to be in my King’s jurisdiction, walking His plane in the “perfect law of liberty”, out of “this State”. I choose to keep all contacts with “this State” to a minimum, not because of what some statute or code or constitution says, but because my Lord says. And that truth is not up for debate.