Dragon society

Comments about your favorite candidate, the newest PROPOSED law, and the FEMA camp near your hometown should go here.
User avatar
Firestarter
Posts: 1240
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:02 pm

Re: Perseus; Anu, Enki and Enlil

Post by Firestarter » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:07 pm

When I saw the Kabbalah “Tree of life”, I thought that it doesn’t look like a “tree” at all but it does look like the Sumerian World Tree.
Image

Here’s another Sumerian picture of Enki and Enlil around the world tree. Also note above the tree the winged creature with tail feathers with a circle for a body.
Image

The elites publicly claim that they descend from King David of the Tanach (Old Testament), while in private they claim to descend from Anu, which makes them Annunaki. Because us – the slaves – are mere mortal clay they think it’s no more than “normal” that they exploit us in any way possible.
They also think it’s quite funny that we’re so easily fooled with all of these dumb mind control techniques.

Then BBC journalist turned conspiracy theorist David Icke steps in to admit that the elite bloodlines descend from the Annunaki but claims that these are really shapeshifting reptilians from the planet Nibiru. Now if anybody even names the “Annunaki” they are immediately labelled a nutcase.

See another Sumerian image, including Enki; note the planets revolving around the Sun, ca. 2,500 BC.
Image


I’ve looked for a “normal” translation of the Sumerian tablets (by common consensus Sumerian is the oldest written language in history): http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/catalogue/catalogue1.htm

The Annunaki apparently live in the city of Nibru (not a planet)...
According to this story, Enlil is the father of Enki, instead of brothers (of course in the context of the story Enlil could be both father and brother, who knows?)...


Enki poured semen into the womb of Nintud, mother of the country, who gave birth to Ninsar;
Enki poured semen into the womb of Ninsar, who gave birth to Ninkura;
Enki poured semen into the womb of Ninkura, who gave birth to Ninimma;
Enki poured semen into the womb of Ninimma, who gave birth to Uttu;
Enki poured semen into the womb of Uttu, who gave birth to Ninhursaja.

From the semen of Enki, Ninhursaja grew several plants.
Enki and his daughther, granddaughter, greatgranddaughter, ... Ninhursaja then were the parents of Ab-u, Ninsikila, Ningiriudu, Ninkasi, Nazi, Azimua, Ninti, and Ensag: http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr111.htm

Enki said to his mother Namma:
My mother, the creature you planned will really come into existence. Impose on him the work of carrying baskets. You should knead clay from the top of the abzu; the birth-goddesses (?) will nip off the clay and you shall bring the form into existence. Let Ninmah act as your assistant; and let Ninimma, Cu-zi-ana, Ninmada, Ninbarag, Ninmug, ...... and Ninguna stand by as you give birth. My mother, after you have decreed his fate, let Ninmah impose on him the work of carrying baskets.
Ninmah and Enki continued to make humans from clay: http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr112.htm

Enki continued to create the world with everything on it (so after creating humans from clay as opposed to the Tanach).
And finally placed in charge of them the hero, the king of the countryside, the great lion of the high plain – Cakkan: http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr113.htm

After An, Enlil, Enki and Ninhursaja had created black-headed people, they also made animals multiply everywhere, and herds of four-legged animals on the plains.
Then came the flood, in which King Zi-ud-sura saved the animals, and An and Enlil treated Zi-ud-sura kindly and even granted him life like a god: http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr174.htm

In the following the battle between Gilgamec and Birhur-tura is described.
http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr1811.htm

See Gilgamesh (Gilgamec) and Enkidu with Humbaba.
Image

In the following, Gilgamec slaying the Bull of heaven is described (not easy to follow though): http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr1812.htm


See Gilgamesh with a lion’s cub in his arms.
Image
User avatar
Firestarter
Posts: 1240
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:02 pm

Teind of hell

Post by Firestarter » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:50 pm

Firestarter wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:09 pm
Thus as they spake together the dragon appeared and came running to them, and S. George was upon his horse, and drew out his sword and garnished him with the sign of the cross, and rode hardily against the dragon which came towards him, and smote him with his spear and hurt him sore and threw him to the ground.
And after said to the maid: Deliver to me your girdle [belt], and bind it about the neck of the dragon and be not afeard. When she had done so the dragon followed her as it had been a meek beast and debonair.

St. George then then slayed the dragon and converted the king and his people to the Christian faith.
In another tale, during the First Crusade, St. George is said to have helped the crusaders during their successful siege of Antioch in 1098: https://www.ancient-origins.net/history ... gon-005794
(archived here: http://archive.is/gWtWk)

I guess that you won´t be surprised that I think that the garter represents the girdle that was bound around the dragon´s neck...
I think I found a better explanation for what the “Garter” in the Order of the Garter represents.
Nicholas de Vere describes the “Teind of Hell” where in the first stage of the ceremony of a human sacrifice, the victim is strangled with a “Witches Garter”.
Teind stands for tithe (a form of taxes to a religious cult)...
If I use this for an explanation; the Order of the Garter would represent a human sacrifice cult!

The Teind of Hell, the sacrifice of a sacred individual by members of the Fairy-Witch tribe, was accomplished in stages, the first stage being strangulation with a ligature, the infamous Silken Points or Witches Garter. in later times the body was said to have been burned and the ashes scattered.What happened between garroting and burning seems to have remained a bit of a mystery and the purpose of the rite has always been held to be motivated by a desire to promote fertility. However this doesn’t always have to be the case and some light might be shed on the mystery concerning both the rite and its reason by looking at a similar, but earlier series of sacrifices which have come to light in recent history - the bog or pool people.

In earlier times, from the pre-christian Iron Age up until roughly the fifth century a.d., the ’victims’ in these types of sacrifice were strangled and the blood was let from a wound made at the side of or across the throat. The intact body was then placed either in a mere or a peat bog, in contrast to being cremated, as in later mediaeval examples of this process. Of particular interest is the case of Lindow Man in Cheshire.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/drag ... ring07.htm


In looking for more information on the “teind to hell” I found a 90 page book by Margaret Murray that confirms some of the things Nicholas de Vere claims about witches, fairies. Because it´s not so bizarre, with references, it automatically makes a more “reliable” impression.
Murray describes that the Garter was an important insignia of rank for witches covens and signifies a pact with the Devil. If I follow this for an explanation; the Order of the Garter is really a Witches order that worships the Devil...

See some excerpts from the book.
In the Theseus legend the interval of time was seven years, but the rest of the story so closely resembles other accounts of the sacrifice by. combat that it cannot be disregarded; Theseus did not put an end to the custom, he merely relieved Athens from sending the yearly victims, who, like the children stolen by the fairies, had to "pay the teind to hell" with their lives.

And in the ballad of Young Tamlane the hero is a fairy knight who loves a human lady and asks her to save him: Then would I never tire, Janet, In elvish land to dwell; But aye at every seven years They pay the teind to hell, And I am sae fat and fu' o' flesh I fear 'twill be myself.

The importance of the lace or string among the witches was very great as it was the insignia of rank. The usual place to carry it on the person was round the leg where it served as a garter. The beliefs of modern France give the clue as to its importance. According to traditions still current, there is a fixed number of witches in each canton, of whom the chief wears the garter in token of his (or her) high position; the right of becoming chief is said to go by seniority. In Haute Bretagne a man who makes a pact with the Devil has a red garter. The red garter figures also in one of Croker's stories of Irish fairies, "The Cluricane showed Tom where the crock of gold was buried under a big boliaun (ragwort). Tom tied his red garter round it to recognise it again, while he went to fetch his spade. On his return he found every boliaun in the field had a red garter tied to it". Here the garter had obviously been used as a means of magic by a man who had no right to do so and it was therefore entirely ineffectual.

They had hardly left when the officers of the court were sent to bring him before the justices, they found him already dead, strangled "with a tait of hemp (or string made of hemp, supposed to have been his garter or string of his bonnet)."

The confusion of the Countess was not from the shock to her modestyit took more than a dropped garter to shock a lady of the fourteenth centurybut the possession of that garter proved that she was not only a member of the Old Religion but that she held the highest place in it. She therefore stood in imminent danger from the Church which had already started on its career of persecution.

Froissart's words seem to imply that Edward understood the underlying meaning of the. Garter, "The King told them it should prove an excellent expedient for the uniting not only of his subjects one with another, but all Foreigners conjunctively with them in the Bonds of Amity and Peace". It is remarkable that the King's mantle as Chief of the Order was powdered over with one hundred and sixty−eight garters which, with his own Garter worn on the leg, makes 169, or thirteen times thirteen, i.e., thirteen covens.

Murray also confirms that Robin Hood (Robyn Hoode) was a witch, like De Vere claims.
Murray describes that Joan of Arc (and her her godmother) had dealings with the fairies.

Murray describes sexual orgies as part of the witches ceremonies.
In their “baptism”, the new member kissed the Grandmaster on any part of his body that he directed. This compares to kissing the Pope's foot or the hand of a monarch.
The new convert was “marked” in another ceremony in which the Devil “sets his seale upon them”. This apparently involved some sort of pricking or cutting the skin till blood came. This process is some form of tattooing. There are different stories on where the “mark” was left, including the hand, armpit, left shoulder and/or left side of the body.

There were several different forms of sacrifices, all of which involved blood. The sacrifice of animals - usually a dog, cat, or a fowl - never took place at a Great Sabbath.
There are tales of human sacrifices of very young infants; but this has only been recorded very rarely (there are many stories on human sacrifices of children, babies on the internet...). In one trial in Scotland in 1658, the Alloa coven were accused that "they all together had a meeting at Tullibodie, where they killed a child, another at Clackmannan where they killed another child".
Many accusations against the witches included the charge of eating the flesh of infants. Similar forms of cannibalism as a religious rite were practised by the worshippers of Bacchus in ancient Greece.

There are indications that in England the sacrifice took place every 7 years, in Normandy, Scandinavia and France every 9 years. In the 7−year cycle King Edmund was stabbed at Pucklechurch in May 946; in November 1016, Edmund Ironside was killed, according to some by a vote of the Witan; in August 1100, Rufus fell in the New Forest. In all these instances the month is one in which one of the 4 great Sabbaths was held.

Margaret Alice Murray - The God of the Witches (1931)
http://www.thewica.co.uk/godwitch.pdf


On the following link are some great photos of Garter memorabilia: http://niceimgro.pw/Badge-of-The-Order- ... m-Obv.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/xVHtM)

See the Badge of The Order of the Garter, with at the centre St George (on the white horse), worn by William IV (King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and King of Hanover from 1830 until his death in 1837).
Image

See the Jewel of the Order of the Garter, Dresden, 1693/1694 with St George on a white horse.
Image

See the neck badge of the Order of the Golden Fleece, Austria, mid 19th Century.
Image

For many centuries the House of Habsburg provided the monarch for the Holy Roman Empire. They also provided the sovereign of the Order of the Golden Fleece.
Otto von Habsburg (a.k.a. Otto of Austria) was co-founder of the Pan Europa Union and Mont Pelerin Scoiety, and Sovereign of the Order of the Golden Fleece. Otto von Habsburg never made it to the Order of the Garter but he was a Knight of the Sovereign Miltary Order of Malta (Knights of Malta); see him with wife Nancy at their wedding.
Image
User avatar
Firestarter
Posts: 1240
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:02 pm

St. Joris in the Netherlands

Post by Firestarter » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:01 pm

In Dutch, Saint George is called Sint Joris.
I´m once again shocked over what I found out...

St Joris is best known as the patron saint and the Sint Joriskerk of the city of Amersfoort. The Sint Joriskerk (St George church) was originally built in 1248 and later expanded.
See the mural in the Sint Joriskerk.
Image

There are several statues of St George in Amersfoort, like for example in the Boterwaag near the St Joriskerk and this one on the Onze Lieve Vrouwetoren.
Image
(in Dutch): https://indebuurt.nl/amersfoort/geniete ... raak~5236/

In 2014, Princess Beatrix moved into the Drakensteyn castle, precisely 111 years after the Drakenfontein was opened in Den Bosch
Sint Joris is also connected to the city of Delft, which includes the Sint Joris Gasthuis originally built in 1407 (in Dutch): http://www.hethaagsecomplot.nl/20130705 ... -draak.htm

Engelbrecht I van Nassau-Dillenburg (1370 - 1442) was the first Count from the family with a tombe in the Onze Lieve Vrouwekerk in Breda.
The monument built for him from 1460 to 1490 is 8 meter high, 4 meter wide. See the following 4, including the harnassed Sint Joris and Sint Wendelinus.
Image
(in Dutch): https://www.hethuisvanoranje.nl/14%20Fa ... raven.html (archived here: http://archive.is/QTfi)

The following drawing shows Willem van Oranje (1533 - 1584), who in 1556 was knighted into the Order of the Golden Fleece of the House of Habsburg, as Sint Joris slaying the dragon (with the princess and the lam on the right), 1577.
Image

Several military awards include Sint Joris and the dragon - Regiment Huzaren; Huzaren van Prins van Oranje, Prins Alexander, Sytzama, and Boreel (in Dutch): https://www.defensieuniformprivemuseum. ... ge-wapens/
Image


The shocking part I found is the “Geheime Orde van Sint Joris” (Secret Order of St George) that was founded in March 1943 in The Hague under the command of Grandmaster Edzard Hendrik Juckema van Burmania baron Rengers, retired Generaal-Majoor of the cavalry.

Its goal was to fight against the “enemy” (the Germans?) by all means necessary during the occupation and thereafter. All in the service for Queen in exile Wilhelmina (in Dutch): http://www.onderscheidingen.nl/nl/publi ... joris.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/f09db)

Grandmaster Edzard Hendrik Juckema van Burmania baron Rengers descended from the president of the opium trafficking VOC, Egbert Rengers (1687-1745) - in Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjuck_van ... ia_Rengers

Since the Geheime Orde van Sint Joris was founded, many Jews were deported to the concentration camps, many members of the resistance were executed, the Dutch were starved in the “Hongerwinter” and Germany was starved for years (in the Morgenthau plan that supposedly wasn’t performed).
There is no further information on this interesting Order at all!

See the badge used for identification of the Knights of this secret order.
Image

Image
User avatar
notmartha
Posts: 751
Joined: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:16 pm

Re: Dragon society

Post by notmartha » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:39 am

Some random tidbits re: Saint George and the Order of the Garter...

John Foxe's (1517-1587) Book of Martyrs -

https://www.biblestudytools.com/history ... d-303.html
We shall conclude our account of the tenth and last general persecution with the death of St. George, the titular saint and patron of England. St.George was born in Cappadocia, of Christian parents; and giving proofs of his courage, was promoted in the army of the emperor Diocletian. During the persecution, St. George threw up his command, went boldly to the senate house, and avowed his being Christian, taking occasion at the same time to remonstrate against paganism, and point out the absurdity of worshipping idols. This freedom so greatly provoked the senate that St. George was ordered to be tortured, and by the emperor's orders was dragged through the streets, and beheaded the next day.

The legend of the dragon, which is associated with this martyr, is usually illustrated by representing St. George seated upon a charging horse and transfixing the monster with his spear. This fiery dragon symbolizes the devil, who was vanquished by St. George's steadfast faith in Christ, which remained unshaken in spite of torture and death.
The epic poem, Faerie Queene by Edmund Spenser, 1590, is about Saint George and the "order" is mentioned in it

http://www.online-literature.com/edmund ... ie-queene/
XLVI

At last yledd with farre reported praise,
Which flying fame throughout the world had spred,
Of doughty knights, whom Faery land did raise,
That noble order[*] hight of Maidenhed,
Forthwith to court of Gloriane[*] I sped
Of Gloriane great Queene of glory bright,
Whose Kingdomes seat Cleopolis[*] is red,
There to obtaine some such redoubted knight,
The Parents deare from tyrants powre deliver might.

hight > called, named
Maidenhead > (A reference to the Order of the Garter, the highest chivalric order of English knighthood, instituted c. 1344; the sovereign (i.e. Elizabeth I, the Virgin Queen) is head of the order. Its emblems include the Red Cross and St George slaying the dragon)

The Century Dictionary, an Encyclopedic Lexicon of the English Language, 1895
order of the garter.JPG
order of the garter.JPG (108.74 KiB) Viewed 1594 times
THE CENTURY CYCLOPEDIA OF NAMES. 1897
George, Saint.

A Christian martyr, a native of Cappadocia and military tribune under Diocletian, put to death at
Nicomedia in 303. The details of his life and death are unknown, and even his existence has been doubted. He was honored in the Oriental churches, and in the 14th century, under Edward III., was adopted as the patron saint of England, where he had been popular from the time of the early crusades : for he was said to have come to the aid of the Crusaders against the Saracens under the walls of Antioch, 1089 and was then chosen by many Normans under Robert, son of William the Conqueror as their patron. Many legends were connected with his name during the middle ages, the most notable of which is the legend of his conquest of the dragon (the devil) and the delivery from it of the king's daughter Sabra (the Church). He was the "Christian hero" of the middle ages.
Ballentine’s Law Dictionary, James A. Ballentine, Third Edition, 1969
garter.
The badge of the order of the garter. which was also called the order of St. George. and was the highest order of British knighthood. The members of this order ranked next after the nobility.
K. G.
An abbreviation of knights of the garter.
knights banneret.
Knights of the order which after certain other dignities ranked below the knights of the order of St. George or of the garter.
knights of St. George.
Same as knights of the garter.
knights of the garter.
The highest order of knighthood, ranking next after the nobility. The order was first instituted by Edward the Third in 1344, and was also called the order of St. George.
Order of St. George.
See garter: knights of the garter.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 1st, 2nd, 4th Editions,
Chaperon.
A hood or bonnet anciently worn by the Knights of the Garter, as part of the habit of that order; also a little escutcheon fixed in the forehead of horses drawing a hearse at a funeral. Wharton.
Companion Of The Garter.
One of the knights of the Order of the Garter.
Garter.
A string or ribbon by which the stocking is held upon the log. The mark of the highest order of English knighthood, ranking next after the nobility. This military order of knighthood is said to have been first instituted by Richard I., at the siege of Acre. where he caused twenty-six knights who firmly stood by him to wear thongs of blue leather about their legs. It is also said to have been perfected by Edward III., and to have received some alterations, which were afterwards laid aside, from Edward VI. The badge of the order is the image of St. George, called the “George,” and the motto is “Hom' soit qui mal y pense." Wharton.
Knights Of St. Michael And St. George.
An English order of knighthood, instituted in 1818.
Knight. In English law.
The next personal dignity after the nobility. 0f knights there are several orders and degrees. The first in rank are knights of the Garter, instituted by Richard I and improved by Edward III in 1344; next follows a knight banneret; then come knights of the Bath, instituted by Henry IV and revived by George I.; and they were so called from a ceremony of bathing the night before their creation. The last order are knights bachelors, who, though the lowest, are yet the most ancient order of knighthood; for we find that King Alfred conferred this order upon his son Athelstan.

Knights Of The Garter.
Otherwise called “Knights of the Order of St. George." This order was founded by Richard I. and improved by Edward III., A. D. 1344. They form the highest order of knights.
THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES, By Manly P. Hall, 1928
Another Mystery ritual among the Babylonians and Assyrians was that of Merodach and the Dragon. Merodach, the creator of the inferior universe, slays a horrible monster and out of her body forms the universe. Here is the probable source of the so-called Christian allegory of St. George and the Dragon.
The Order of the Garter was probably formed by Edward III in imitation of King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table, which institution was hopelessly scattered after the battle of Kamblan. The popular story to the effect that the Countess of Salisbury's garter was the original inspiration for the foundation of the order is untenable. The motto of the Order of the Garter is "Honi soit qui mal y pense" (Shamed be he who thinks evil of it). St. George is looked upon as the Patron of the order, for he typifies the higher nature of man overcoming the dragon of his own lower nature. While St. George is supposed to have lived during the third century, it is probable that he was a mythological personage borrowed from pagan mythology.
User avatar
notmartha
Posts: 751
Joined: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:16 pm

Re: Dragon society

Post by notmartha » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:56 pm

RE: the word "dragon" from a Biblical perspective

Smith’s Bible Dictionary, William Smith, 1884
Dragon
(1.) Heb. tannim, plural of tan. The name of some unknown creature inhabiting desert places and ruins (Job 30:29; Ps 44:19; Isa 13:22; Isa 34:13; Isa 43:20; Jer 10:22; Mic 1:8; Mal 1:3); probably, as translated in the Revised Version, the jackal (q.v.).
(2.) Heb. tannin. Some great sea monster (Jer 51:34). In Isa 51:9 it may denote the crocodile. In Gen 1:21 (Heb. plural tanninim) the Authorized Version renders "whales," and the Revised Version "sea monsters." It is rendered "serpent" in Ex 7:9. It is used figuratively in Ps 74:13; Ezek 29:3.
In the New Testament the word "dragon" is found only in Rev 12:3, 4, 7, 9, 16, 17, etc., and is there used metaphorically of "Satan." (See WHALE.)
Easton's Bible Dictionary, Matthew George Easton, 1897
DRAGON
The translators of the Authorized Version, apparently following the Vulgate, have rendered by the same word "dragon" the two Hebrew words tan and tannin, which appear to be quite distinct in meaning.
1. The former is used, always in the plural, in Job 30:29; Psal 44:19; Isai 34:13; 43:20; Jere 9:11 It is always applied to some creatures inhabiting the desert, and we should conclude from this that it refers rather to some wild beast than to a serpent. The syriac renders it by a word which, according to Pococke, means a "jackal."
2. The word tannin seems to refer to any great monster, whether of the land or the sea, being indeed more usually applied to some kind of serpent or reptile, but not exclusively restricted to that sense. Exod 7:9, 10, 12; Deut 32:33; Psal 91:13 In the New Testament it is found only in the Apocalypse, Reve 12:3, 4, 7, 9, 16, 17 etc., as applied metaphorically to "the old serpent, called the devil, and Satan."
"Dragon" in KJV Old Testament

Hebrew Strong's Number: 8577
Hebrew Word: ‏תַּנִּין‎
Transliteration: tannîn
Hebrew Word: ‏תַּנִּים‎
Transliteration: tannîym
Phonetic Pronunciation: tan-neem'
Part of Speech: n m

English Words used in KJV:
dragon 21
serpent 3
whale 3
sea monster 1
[Total Count: 28]

or tanniym, tan-neem'; (Ezek. 29:3), intensive from the same as <H8565> (tan); a marine or land monster, i.e. sea-serpent or jackal :- dragon, sea-monster, serpent, whale.
Deuteronomy 32:33 - Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.
Nehemiah 2:13 - And I went out by night by the gate of the valley, even before the dragon well, and to the dung port, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem, which were broken down, and the gates thereof were consumed with fire.
Job 30:29 - I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.
Psalm 44:19 - Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death.

Psalm 74:13 - Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.
Psalm 91:13 - Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

Psalm 148:7 - Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:

Isaiah 13:22 - And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.
Isaiah 27:1 - In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
Isaiah 34:13 - And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.
Isaiah 35:7 - And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
Isaiah 43:20 - The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.
Isaiah 51:9 - Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?
Jeremiah 9:11 - And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.
Jeremiah 10:22 - Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.
Jeremiah 14:6 - And the wild asses did stand in the high places, they snuffed up the wind like dragons; their eyes did fail, because there was no grass.
Jeremiah 49:33 - And Hazor shall be a dwelling for dragons, and a desolation for ever: there shall no man abide there, nor any son of man dwell in it.
Jeremiah 51:34 - Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
Jeremiah 51:37 - And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.
Ezekiel 29:3 - Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself.

Micah 1:8 - Therefore I will wail and howl, I will go stripped and naked: I will make a wailing like the dragons, and mourning as the owls.
Hebrew Strong's Number: 8568
Hebrew Word: ‏תַּנָּה‎
Transliteration: tannâ
Part of Speech: n m

English Words used in KJV:
dragon 1
[Total Count: 1]

probably feminine of <H8565> (tan); a female jackal :- dragon.
Malachi 1:3 - And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
***Interesting to note how many times dragons and owls (later used symbolically by the Illuminati) are mentioned together...

"Dragon" in KJV New Testament

Greek Strong's Number: 1404
Greek Word: δράκων
Transliteration: drakōn
Part of Speech: n m

English Words used in KJV:
dragon 13
[Total Count: 13]

probably from an alternate form of derkomai (to look); a fabulous kind of serpent (perhaps as supposed to fascinate) :- dragon.
Revelation 12:1-17 (KJV)
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 13:2 - And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Revelation 13:4 - And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Revelation 13:11 - And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Revelation 16:13 - And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Revelation 20:2 - And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Compare the coat of arms of Prince Charles to the above:

Image
User avatar
Firestarter
Posts: 1240
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:02 pm

Sobek the crocodile-god

Post by Firestarter » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:52 pm

notmartha wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:39 am
The next personal dignity after the nobility. 0f knights there are several orders and degrees. The first in rank are knights of the Garter, instituted by Richard I and improved by Edward III in 1344; next follows a knight banneret; then come knights of the Bath, instituted by Henry IV and revived by George I.; and they were so called from a ceremony of bathing the night before their creation.
notmartha wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:39 am
Knights Of The Garter.
Otherwise called “Knights of the Order of St. George." This order was founded by Richard I. and improved by Edward III., A. D. 1344. They form the highest order of knights.
It’s amazing isn’t it that there are so many “conspiracy theories” on who supposedly rules the world, but there are hardly any on the highest order of the British royals...
I don’t know for sure if the official story is correct, but by common concensus the “Most noble Order of the Garter” was founded by King Edward III in 1348 (so not earlier by King Richard I, a.k.a. Lionheart).

notmartha wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:39 am
The Order of the Garter was probably formed by Edward III in imitation of King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table, which institution was hopelessly scattered after the battle of Kamblan.
King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table is a famous story, but by common concensus it’s more a myth than real history. According to medieval stories King Arthur led the defence of Britain against Saxon invaders in the late 5th and early 6th centuries.
The Round Table was first described by Wace in “Roman de Brut” (1155). The symbolism of the Round Table developed over time; by the close of the 12th century it had become the chivalric order associated with Arthur's court.

The Arthurian story in Geoffrey's “Historia” includes Arthur's father Uther Pendragon, the magician Merlin, Arthur's wife Guinevere, the sword Excalibur, and final rest in Avalon. The 12th-century French writer Chretien de Troyes added Lancelot and the Holy Grail to the Arthurian legend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Arthur

notmartha wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:39 am
Another Mystery ritual among the Babylonians and Assyrians was that of Merodach and the Dragon. Merodach, the creator of the inferior universe, slays a horrible monster and out of her body forms the universe. Here is the probable source of the so-called Christian allegory of St. George and the Dragon.
As far as I can tell the slaying of bull, crocodile or dragon all represent the same. If I understand correctly the Sumerian slaying of the World bull preceded the other slaying stories.
Several sources say that the slaying represents slaying of the ego. In mystical religions this represents transcending to an enlightened state.


According to Nicholas de Vere, the Dragon Society and Order of the Garter were styled in imitation of the Egyptian cult of the dragon, founded by Queen Sobekneferu (1785 BC):
The Dragon Court can first be identified in Egypt under the patronage of the priest prince Ankhfn Khonsu in about 2170 BC. It was subsequently established more formally as a pharaonic institution by the twelfth dynasty Queen Sobekh Nefru (c.1785 BC).

The Court pursued the teachings of Thoth, which had prevailed from the time of Nimrod’s grandson King Raneb, a pharaoh of the second dynasty. He reigned c. 2852 BC, about three centuries before the Gizeh pyramids are considered to have been built.

In those far off times, the priests and temples were not associated with religion as were their later successors in other lands, but rather more with the duties of preserving and teaching the old wisdom. The temples incorporated al-khame workshops. It was the obligation of the priests to maintain the spiritual welfare of the pharaohs, while ensuring the purity of a continuing royal bloodline which progressed through the Dragon Queens of the matrilinear Grail succession.

Dragon sovereignty had evolved in Egypt from old Mesopotamia and its tradition was vested in Sobek, the sacred crocodile (the messeh or mus-hus). It was from the practice of kingly anointing with the fat of the messeh that the Hebrew verb ’mashiach’ (to anoint) derived, and the Dragon dynasts became known as Messiahs (anointed ones).
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/soci ... ourt02.htm


Queen Sobekneferu (a.k.a. Neferusobek) marks the final ruler of the 12th dynasty and the first confirmed female “pharaoh” of Egypt; her name means "the beauty of Sobek". Queen Sobekneferu worshipped the crocodile-god Sobek (a.k.a. Sebek, Sebek-Ra, Sobeq, Suchos, Sobki, Soknopais and Sochet).
Sobek was associated with pharaonic power, fertility, and military prowess. Sobek had a long presence in the Egyptian pantheon, from the Old Kingdom of Egypt (c. 2686–2181 BC) to the Roman period (c. 30 BC – 350 AD).
See the statue of Sobek at Amenhemhet III’s mortuary temple.
Image

Sobek the crocodile-God was closely related to the Royal god Horus and participated in his birth.
Sobek holding Egyptian Ank
Sobek was sometimes depicted as a crocodile with the head of a falcon; see Horus-Sobek.
Image

The annointing of priest-kings dates back to ancient Egyptian traditions. The oil used in Egypt came from crocodiles which were called "Messeh". This was allegedly adopted by the Hebrews ca. 1250 BC as the “mashiach” or "Messiah"(Annointed king).
The New Testament Greek word for anoint is “Chrio” which became “Christos”, “Christus” in Latin and “Christ” in English: http://robertmascharan.blogspot.com/201 ... ah-of.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/sKkHf)


Some sects believed that Sobek arose from the "Dark Water" to create the world by laying eggs on the bank of the waters of Nun, made the Nile from his sweat and brought fertility to the land.
The Egyptians placed mummified crocodiles, crocodile foetuses and crocodile eggs with the deceased for protection of Sobek in the afterlife.

According to some myths Sobek’s father was Set, but he was also closely associated with Horus,who took the form of a crocodile to retrieve parts of Osiris’s body from the Nile. Sobek was also thought to have assisted Isis in birth of Horus.
See the statuette of Osiris on the back of a crocodile
Image

Sobek was also worshiped as the manifestation of Amun-Re and was often depicted with either the headdress of Amun or the sun disk of Ra.
At Kom Ombo a dual temple was dedicated to Sobek and Horus. The temple was constructed during the Ptolemaic period, but there is evidence that it was even older from the New Kingdom.
See pharaoh Amenhotep III with a solar form of Sobek (likely Sobek-Horus).
Image

Sobek was depicted as a crocodile, a mummified crocodile or a man with the head of a crocodile. He often wore a plumed headdress with a horned sun disk or the crown (of Amon-Ra) and carried the Was sceptre and the Ankh (representing his role as an Osirian healer).
See the relief from the Temple of Kom Ombo with a solar crown (associated with Ra), the was-sceptre, royal kilt and the ankh in his hand, 2nd century BC.
Image

Spell PT 317 of the Pyramid Texts of the Old Kingdom reads:
Unis is Sobek, green of plumage, with alert face and raised fore, the splashing one who came from the thigh and tail of the great goddess in the sunlight ... Unis has appeared as Sobek, Neith's son. Unis will eat with his mouth, Unis will urinate and Unis will copulate with his penis. Unis is lord of semen, who takes women from their husbands to the place Unis likes according to his heart’s fancy.
During the Twelfth and Thirteenth Dynasties of Egypt, the cult of Sobek was particularly prominent.
A twelfth dynasty temple at Medinet Madi was dedicated to Sobek, his wife Renenutet (the snake goddess), and Horus. The temple was originally built by Amenemhet III and Amenemhet IV, but restored during the New Kingdom and expanded during the Ptolemaic period: https://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/sobek.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/FRIYh)
User avatar
Firestarter
Posts: 1240
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:02 pm

The Order of the Garter in the Napoleon era

Post by Firestarter » Wed May 22, 2019 4:50 pm

I´ve searched for the financers of Napoleon Bonaparte.
In 1803, Napoleon sold territory to US President Thomas Jefferson in a deal known as the Louisiana Purchase. Napoleon used the 3 million dollars to wage war in Europe.
All of his opponents - Prussia, Austria and Russia - were reportedly financed by the Bank of England.

In March 1815, Napoleon borrowed money from the Eubard Banking House of Paris to equip an army. It has been rumoured that Eubard was controlled by the House of Rothschild.
Nathan Rothschild took a maximum profit on the bonds market by having inside information from his agent Rothworth that Wellington had defeated Napoleon at Waterloo: https://growinganger.wordpress.com/2016 ... othschild/
(archived here: http://archive.is/VHPhx)


Most of the wealthy of the Amphioen Society (Opium Society) lived in the Netherlands, including “stadholder” Willem IV, who had become a Knight of the Garter in 1733 (and called himself Prince of Orange), who acquired 30 Amphioen Society shares in 1748. He was promised that by 1755 this would already make him 200,000 guilders richer.
Willem V made a fortune through the Amphioen Society. Every time the octroy was renewed, Willem IV and his “stadholder” successor, Willem V, would receive a huge amount of opium money, e.g. 1.2 million guilders in 1795.

See Willem V, who was born in 1748 and became a Knight of the Garter in 1752.
Image

In 1787, Willem V was nearly ousted by a group of Dutch revolutionaries called the Patriots. He was saved by his brother-in-law, King Friedrich Wilhelm II of Prussia.
King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia, Friedrich Wilhelm II´s son, became a Knight of the Garter in 1814 (as a reward?).
Image

In 1795, in one of those lucky “coincidences”, the French army of Napoleon invaded the Bavarian Republic (later renamed the Kingdom of Holland and finally the Netherlands). Willem V went to England.
In 1802, Willem V made a deal with Napoleon so his son, Willem VI, would get some territories.
The French rule was so horrible that suddenly the House of Orange Nassau became popular.

The patriarch of the Van Hogendorp family, Willem van Hogendorp (1735-1784), made a fortune by “officially” smuggling opium.
Willem’s second son, Gijsbert Karel van Hogendorp (1762-1834), became a lawyer and a real “hero” of the Dutch monarchy. After the Napoleon left the Netherlands, in 1813 Gijsbert Karel and 2 associates staged a coup to establish the Dutch kingdom with Willem VI crowned King Willem I, who had (also) become a Knight of the Garter in 1814, and Gijsbert Karel van Hogendorp as his prime minister.
Often overlooked in this “heroic tale” is that Willem’s eldest son, Dirk van Hogendorp, was a general in Napoleon’s army; even appearing in Napoleon’s testament: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1366&start=30#p5858


I still haven´t found a concise story on the most powerful “order” in the whole world; the most noble Order of the Garter.
I decided to simply look at some of the Knights of the Garter on the “independent” Wikipedia that lived during the time Napoleon Bonaparte waged war in Europe. It turns out that these include some of the most important people of the era.
Firestarter wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:07 pm
Following is a complete (?) list of the Knights and Ladies of Order of the Garter, the most powerful "Order" in the world (1012 members since 1348).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_K ... the_Garter

Napoleon Bonaparte’s nephew, Napoleon III, became good friends with the London elite, including Benjamin Disraeli and Lord Palmerston, who became a Knight of the Garter in 1856. As French President, and after he had declared himself French Emperor, he allied with Britain. Napoleon III himself became a Knight of the Garter in 1855: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_III

See portrayed as Garter Knights - Benjamin Disraeli (on the right) with Lord Salisbury (who both became Knights of the Garter in 1878).
Image


Lord Palmerston, devised a strategy to make Belgium independent from the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
He became a Knight of the Garter in 1856: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Joh ... Palmerston


Leopold of Saxe-Coburg became a British citizen in 1815 and one year later married Princess Charlotte (the only legitimate child of later King George IV) and became a Knight of the Garter. In 1817, Charlotte died in child birth (a stillborn son).
In 1831, Belgium was taken from the Kingdom of the Netherlands to make Leopold its King.
King Leopold played an important role in managing relations between Britain and the French Empire of Napoleon III: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_I_of_Belgium


William IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel, became a Knight of the Garter in 1786.
William IX hired Nathan Mayer Rothschild to help him manage his estate and supervise the gathering of taxes. Although they were associated since 1775, William IX only formally designated Rothschild as his overseer in 1801.
Nathan Mayer Rothschild is the patriarch of the infamous Rothschild dynasty.

In 1806 his electorate was annexed by France. William used the Frankfurt Rothschilds to hide his fortune from Napoleon. Nathan Mayer (N.M.) from London funded the British movements through Portugal and Spain. In this scheme the robber bankers became richer than William of Hesse-Kassel.
After the Napoleonic armies were defeated at Leipzig, William IX was restored to power in 1813: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I ... r_of_Hesse


Richard Wellesley became Governor-General of Bengal in 1798. As a result of his wars against the French and the treaties that followed, French influence in India was extinguished. This added 40 million people and 10 millions of revenue to the British dominions. This made Britain the true dominant authority over all India. Wellesley made the opium trading East India Company into an an imperial power.
See him in Garter robes.
Image
He became a Knight of the Garter in 1810: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_W ... _Wellesley


Arthur Wellesley became a Knight of the Garter in 1813 and is better known as the First Duke of Wellington.
See Duke Wellington with decorations of the: Order of the Garter (Star on his left breast); Order of the Golden Fleece; Russian Order of St George; Order of Maria Theresa; Military Order of St Ferdinand; Order of the Sword; Order of the Tower and Sword.
Image

His victory with an Anglo-Dutch-German army against Napoleon Bonaparte at Waterloo has made him into a real military hero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_We ... Wellington


In 1813, George Hamilton-Gordon was given the important position as Ambassador in Vienna, from where he financed the coalition that defeated the army of Napoleon Bonaparte.
He became a Knight of the Garter in 1855: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ha ... f_Aberdeen
User avatar
Firestarter
Posts: 1240
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:02 pm

Military Constantinian Order of St George

Post by Firestarter » Mon May 27, 2019 4:55 pm

There are several Orders of St. George for the military. Am I the only one to think it’s ironic that one of the most important heroics of St. George was his refusal to follow orders from the Roman army?
If soldiers refuse to participate in genocide, following the example of St. George, these soldiers should take action against our government for orchestrating the worldwide genocide.


Maybe the most interesting of these Orders is the “Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George” (in Italian: Sacro militare ordine costantiniano di San Giorgio).
This Roman-Catholic Knighthood was founded in 1520-1545 by the Angeli Comneni family, and since 1731 all its Grandmaster are from the former royal House of Bourbon. The Angeli Comneni grandmasters have received confirmations of its status in a series of papal briefs, and decrees from the Kings of Spain, Poland and Holy Roman Emperor.

It’s affiliated to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, although the Vatican isn’t formally in charge.
See the badge and breast star of the order
Image

Its grandmaster until his death in 2010, Carlos Hugo of Bourbon-Parma, had married Princess Irene in 1964, daughter of former Dutch Queen Juliana. This marriage caused a “constitutional crisis” in the Netherlands because Irene converted to Catholicism before the wedding (they divorced in 1981 after Carlos couldn’t become Spanish King).
Their son Carlos became its next grandmaster.

After the reconciliation in 2014, by proclamation the former Franco-Neapolitan (2,800 knights) and Hispano-Neapolitan (1,800) branches were united: http://infogalactic.com/info/Sacred_Mil ... int_George
(archived here: http://archive.is/LbeWN)


It´s strange that the Dutch wikipedia page has much more information than the English version. What’s also strange is that Wikipedia doesn’t completely rule out that it was founded, long before the 16th century, by Emperor Constantine or Emperor Isaac II.
The “Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George” is mostly active in Catholic Rome, Naples and Spain.

Foreign Minister of the Netherlands and NATO Secretary-General, Joseph Luns, became one of the better known knights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Mi ... int_George
(archived here: http://archive.is/9V9Cb)
(in Dutch): https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heilige_M ... Sint-Joris (archived here: http://archive.is/YT5mx)


In 1797, the Bourbons had to flee because the French army conquered Napels.
In 1808, Josef Bonaparte (elder brother of Napoleon I) as King of Naples founded the Order of the Two Sicilies (Italian: "L'Ordine reale delle Due Sicilie" or "Reale ordine delle Due Sicilie"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Ord ... o-Sicilies
(in Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orde_van_ ... ili%C3%ABn)

This later became the “Order of Saint George of the Reunion” (Italian: Reale e militare ordine di San Giorgio della Riunione).
When Josef Napoleon became King of Spain he created the Royal Order of Spain, while his brother-in-law Joachim Murat became the grandmaster of the “Order of Saint George of the Reunion ”.
After Napoleon I was defeated it was dissolved in 1814.

In 1816, Napoleon’s wife Marie Loise proclaimed herself grandmistress of the “Constantinian Order of Saint George” but of course this wasn’t acknowledge by the House of Bouron (reinstated as King of Naples), so this was effectively a new order.

In 1819, King Ferdinand founded the second “Order of Saint George of the Reunion” that was dissolved in 1860: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_ ... he_Reunion
(in Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militaire ... vereniging)
User avatar
Firestarter
Posts: 1240
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:02 pm

Drexel dragon

Post by Firestarter » Fri May 31, 2019 4:57 pm

The bronze statue of the school mascot at Drexel University, Mario the Magnificent Dragon, is located at the Drexel Dragon Park at 33rd and Market Streets – the Drexel dragon.
Image

The Drexel Dragon mascot was first named “Mario the Magnificent Dragon” in 1997: https://drexel.edu/now/archive/2018/Jul ... el-Dragon/


The Student Newspaper at Drexel University is called – The Triangle.

Drexel University (its name since 1970) was founded in 1891 by Anthony Joseph Drexel Sr. (1826 – 1893). Anthony Drexel was an American banker who as the dominant partner of Drexel & Co. of Philadelphia founded Drexel, Morgan & Co (later J.P. Morgan & Co., today JP Morgan Chase) in New York in 1871 with J.P. Morgan as his junior partner.
In 1901, J.P. Morgan & Co. financed the formation of the United Steel Corporation.

The first written reference to the Dragons occurred in 1928, when the football team was called "The Dragons in The Triangle": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drexel_University


I´m no fan of Fritz Springmeier, but the following excerpts from Bloodlines of the illuminati on the Drexel family are interesting:
David Hill had done what I had originally done. He had asked questions and began to dig into who pulled the strings in this country. Both David and I discovered the names of some of the more obvious powerful families. For instance, in David’s notes he writes, "Yes, it is a fact: the Mellons, Carnegies, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Dukes, Astors, Dorrances, Reynoldses, Stilimans, Bakers, Pynes, Cuilmans, Watsons, Tukes, Kleinworts, DuPonts, Warburgs, Phippses, Graces, Guggenheims, Milners, Drexels, Winthrops, Vanderbilts, Whitneys, Harknesses and other super rich Illuminated families generally get along quite well with Communists, who supposedly want to take away the wealth of these men and give it to the people.

The Drexel firm associated with Milken was advised by the Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury, and the Stock Exchange to declare bankruptcy with Chapter 11, which they did.

Their big break came when Michael Milken and his band of junk bond artists carried out a "greenmail" on the Disney Corp. Only a few insiders know how greenmail works. It is a legal form of blackmail. Milken would work with his friends Saul Steinberg, Sir James Goldsmith, and Carl Icahn. Milken would provide them the financial clout, to make them look financially capable of financially purchasing a corporation that they had selected as a target. According to insiders, Milken got 40% of the upside of any "greenmail" that went right.

SOME DISNEY people of interest.
Over the years, the close associates of the Disneys’ is very revealing. The public can get a feel for Disney’s attitude toward Illuminati bloodlines in the Disney movie The Happiest Millionaire which is about Anthony J. Drexel Biddle and Angie Duke. Readers of this author’s previous writings will recognize the Biddle and Duke names. In fact, the movie was based loosely on a book written by Cordelia Drexel Biddle about the Biddles.

In 1871 Junius’ son, J.P. Morgan, made an alliance with Tony Drexel, heir to the powerful Philadelphia bank. Their firm - Drexel, Morgan & Co. -resided in an extravagant new building on Wall St., which is still Morgan headquarters today.

However, the Dukes rearranged things and kept on going. The Dukes intermarried with the Biddies who worked with the Rothschilds. The Dukes also intermarried with the Drexels, who in turn intermarried with the Harrimans and Goulds.

Researcher Ferdinand Lundberg in his book America’s 60 Families states on p. 36, "The Morgan firm and its affiliated commercial banks act, broadly, on behalf of such tremendous accumulations as those of the Vanderbilts, Goulds, Drexels, Wideners, Berwinds, Phippses, Hills, Dukes, Ryans, McCormicks, Bakers, DuPonts, Fishers, Jameses, and Others.’ Isn’t it interesting that my writings have exposed the Morgans, Vanderbilts, Goulds, Drexels, Phippses, Dukes, Bakers, DuPonts as families with members in the Illuminati?
https://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.p ... minati.pdf
User avatar
Firestarter
Posts: 1240
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:02 pm

Lord Rosebery - Commonwealth

Post by Firestarter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:07 pm

There are many, many conspiracy theories on the Rothschild family, most of them false.
This post on the reportedly gay Archibald Philip Primrose, 5th Earl of Rosebery (1847 - 1929) shows that the claims that the current head of the family – Baron Jacob Rothschild – owns a whopping $500 trillion is false.

Archibald Philip Primrose, Lord Rosebery was a member of the notorious Bullingdon Club.
In the back row standing, Roseberry is second from left, with arms folded. The young man standing in front of the fellow on the left of him, with his hand casually in his pocket is Lord R. Churchill.
Image

In 1878, Archibald Primrose married Hannah de Rothschild, who as the sole heiress of Mayer Amschel de Rothschild, was the wealthiest British heiress of the time. The later King Edward VII and Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (close to the Rothschild family) attended the wedding.
After Hannah died (in 1890) most of the Rothschild wealth went to Primrose and their 3 children after he died. The $500 trillion is based on the supposed Rothschild wealth in the 19th century corrected for inflation...
Primrose became a Knight of the Garter in 1892 and was reportedly the wealthiest Prime Minister in 1894 and 1895.

In 1883, Archibald and Hannah Rosebery visited New Zealand and Australia, where Primrose developed his view of Imperial relations.
On 18 January 1884, in Adelaide Primrose said there is no need for any nation (Australia), however great, leaving the Empire, because the Empire is a Commonwealth of Nations. Primrose coined the term “Commonwealth of Nations”.

See them at a house party at Dalmeny during the Midlothian campaign. William Gladstone is seated centre (holding his hat), Hannah Rosebery stands third from right and Lord Rosebery (Primrose) is seated on the ground on the right.
Image

In February 1885, Primrose got a seat in the Cabinet as lord privy seal.
In March 1885, by the Penjdeh incident, Great Britain was on to the verge of war with Russia.

In May 1885, Rosebery visited his good friend Count Herbert Bismarck, who introduced him to his father, chancellor Bismarck (British agent), with whom he discussed on the Egyptian loan, the Afghan frontier, Turkey, and the African colonies, all of which were causing friction between Great Britain and Germany.

In November 1885, Rosebery said:
If you can obtain from the representatives of Ireland a clear and constitutional demand which will represent the wishes of the people of Ireland, and which will not conflict with the unity or the supremacy of this country, then by satisfying that demand Ireland might see in this country her best ally.

In 1886, in the new administration, Rosebery became Foreign Secretary.
From October 1886 to the spring of 1887, Rosebery visited India. As chairman of the Imperial Federation League, Rosebery was constantly bringing before the country the question of Imperial Federation, “the closest possible union of the various self-governing states ruled by the British Crown, consistently with the free national development which is the birthright of British subjects all over the world for the closest union in sympathy, in external action, and in defence”.

After he resigned as Prime Minister in 1895, Primrose left the political arena. In 1909, Primrose returned to the political field, denouncing the Finance Bill as revolutionary and leading directly to socialism.
On 9 August 1911, the Bill, drastically amended by the Lords, was again returned from the House of Commons, and Rosebery denounced the measure but declared that it was less disastrous than getting sufficient peers to pass the Bill and therefore voted with the government, afterwards drawing up a protest to be recorded in the journals of the House: http://archive.is/iAIaF
Post Reply