The Kurt Cobain murder

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PhantomJustice wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:03 pmIt does look like Kurt. Has anyone seen Kurt wearing this type of shirt before? Also the hair looks darker than Kurts, but in actual fact Kurt did have darker hair in his last known photo. Also whats up with that footprint on his shirt?

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I've spent time looking for pictures of the death scene. There are many fake ones (including from the movie). I had not seen that one before. It could be real...

PhantomJustice wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:03 pm I believe Courtney didn't have anything to do with Kurts death. Just Google "MK Ultra Kurt Cobain." It doesn't even matter what I post anyway because the truth is always stranger than fiction, and this one is so hard to believe that I'm sure the see eye aye is not worried about it. The vast majority of people will chalk it up to a consipiracy theory, and maybe it's just what I want to believe because I don't want to believe Courtney had anything to do it, or maybe it makes the most sense of anything I've heard so far and explains everything, meaning everything, all the pieces of the puzzle fit into this grand scenario.
I don't believe that Courtney was involved either, for the simple fact that she wouldn't be able to cover it up.
American intellignce could have done it, but Courtney promised to release the documents that the CIA did it, but never did (at least I haven't been able to find the documents)...

Here are 2 videos on the Cobain murder.

The most important part from the first is the interview of private investigator Tom Grant, who brought tapes of his conversations with Courtney Love (Grant has accused Courtney for orchestrating the murder).
https://youtu.be/hZB363BuUx0

Here’s a cop explaining his investigation and that the photos were only developed later. With conclusions by Grant...
How could he know the story he tells?
The cop even admits that Cobain took a fatal heroin dose.
https://youtu.be/MBsYzLRYNMY

While this is interesting, and confirms that the ofiicial story doesn´t bear scrutiny, I still don´t see any evidence that Courtney was in any way involved...
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The picture does bare resemblance to Kurt, without doubt, what does not bare resemblance is the flooring around him.
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It isn’t Kurt. This photo is from an original pressing of a Slayer album. They used an old daguerreotype photo of a dude in a shootout in the “wild west”. He was behind a bar when he was shot in the head. You can see he’s wearing an old timey vest.
The real death scene is on YT. Someone climbed the trees behind the greenhouse and captured video of the top of his head. You can see his hair fanned out. (Photo attached zoomed in)

https://youtu.be/mVBGRdL-J9Y

Not a drop of blood or viscera anywhere. The police reports describe a minimal amount in his left ear and pooled on the ground. Laying 3 days before discovery (but I think he shot on the 2nd. Early am when he got home).
The amount reported supports blood “seepage”, it took (officially) 3 days to pool that minimal amount. That means there was no blood pressure when he was shot—-he was already dead of an OD.
Shoot a person with heartbeat and it looks like the guy in this photo. There should have been massive amounts of blood. Look up any photo of a shotgun to the head. They all have massive damage to the face and blood everywhere. Kurt didn’t. Head and face intact very minimal damage.
Watch the video. Where’s the blood?

It isn’t even a question anymore.
The forensics don’t support suicide, they support homicide. People don’t think the cops were in this, why? They’re corrupt af. They staged other scenes and shot people and got away with it for decades. They finally came under federal review in 2014 and currently entire force is being reorganized due to charges of corruption, violence, racism, excessive use of force. These cops were dirty. They don’t want to reopen this case and come under fire. They’d be sued down to nothing, and every case they’ve charged can be claimed corrupted.
I base my opinion only on science and hard research not emotion.
The problem is this happened before internet, cell phones, digital and social media so no one has all the facts anymore. I do.
When you look at everything, I don’t care if he told everyone he was going to kill himself, he couldn’t have physically pulled the trigger.
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Kurt Cobain's death has always been a subject of debate due to the countless unknowns of the case. I personally don't know whether to believe his suicide or whether it was really a murder.

I think he was a great person, but with great personal problems.

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I simply assumed that Kurt Cobain, with his credit card blocked, spent his last days keeping a low profile in his own house, only going out to get drugs and food.
But his nanny Michael ‘Cali’ DeWitt and girlfriend Jessica Hopper were staying in the house at the time, and reportedly he even said hello to them when he returned. So he wasn’t really missing?!?
Firestarter wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:20 pmKurt Cobain arrived at his Seattle house around 2 a.m. on April 2, and talked briefly with the male live-in nanny Michael DeWitt, who left the house after Kurt’s arrival.
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Cobain’s return to Seattle is the first thing he did and the last thing he did. Cobain arrived at his house after midnight on April 2nd, and at dawn he awoke his friend Michael “Cali” DeWitt, who had been house sitting with his girlfriend (a young Jessica Hopper) while Cobain and Love were in rehab. Shortly after DeWitt and Hopper fell back asleep, Cobain took a taxi to a gun shop, where he purchased more shotgun shells. DeWitt had been using drugs and didn’t even register that Cobain was back; it wasn’t until two days later, during an argument with Hopper, that he realized Cobain’s visit wasn’t a hallucination. He then told Love, who sent her Hole bandmate Eric Erlandson to search the house with DeWitt. The house would be searched two more times in the next two days — once by Grant and Carlson, and again by DeWitt. No one looked in the garage or the greenhouse above it
https://consequence.net/2024/04/revisit ... -cobain/2/


There is also a tale of Joe Burns, who is probably making it all up, claiming he was friends with Kurt, hanging out with Kurt and his drug abusing buddies in his last days, and supposedly even hearing THE gunshot!
Here’s one of the videos where Burns talks about Kurt Cobain, it doesn’t include his wildest claims though.
https://youtu.be/d7JPi75MQNk
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Joseph Burns had been staying at Kurt's home for several days before Cobain arrived. Burns says he was there with Cali Dewitt, Jennifer Adamson, and then-girlfriend Bonnie Dillard. He had been at the home of Kurt and Courtney having a good time hanging out with friends, listening to records, and doing tattoo work for Dewitt, who was a roadie for the bands Hole and Nirvana, as well as being Cobain's friend and live-in Nanny.


According to Burns, Carlson and his accomplice went upstairs with Cobain and got high on heroin. Not long after, Cobain returned downstairs visibly high and “out of it” with Carlson and his accomplice not far behind. They were trying to coerce Cobain back upstairs to do some more drugs. Being unsuccessful at convincing him, Carlson and his friend became agitated and began pushing and “herding” Cobain back up the stairs to the greenhouse where he was later found dead.


Burns claims that while standing in the driveway with Dillard deciding if he should stay or go, they heard a gunshot. Understanding right away what they had heard, Burns was finally convinced by his girlfriend to leave. Burns, Dillard, Dewitt, and Adamson all left the house together and went to Jennifer Adamson's to sleep.
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Jennifer Adamson was supposedly none other than … the older half-sister of Macaulay and Kieran Culkin who died in 2000 of an overdose: https://web.archive.org/web/20250514192 ... grunge-era
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