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Conversation

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:21 pm
by notmartha
For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.” Deut 4:24

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” 2 Corinthians 11:2

Where is your conversation? Have you defiled the marriage bed, committing adultery and breaking the covenant of fidelity, by sleeping with other gods (i.e. STATE)? Have you made the Lord jealous, committing “criminal conversation?” Or is your conversation in heaven, kept holy, making yourself ready for the marriage supper (Rev 19:7-9)?



BIBLE

KJV

Derek, Hebrew Strong's #1870, is found in the OT 705 times. It was translated as way (590), toward (31), journey (23), manner (8), miscellaneous translations (53). It was translated as “conversation” in the following verses:
Psalm 37:14 - The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
Psalm 50:23 - Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God.
Anastrephō, Greek Strong's #390, is found in the NT 11 times. It was translated as return (2), have conversation (2), live (2), abide (1), overthrow (1), behave (one's) self (1), be used (1), pass (1). It is translated as “conversation” in the following verses:
2 Corinthians 1:12 - For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.
Ephesians 2:3 - Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Anastrophē, Greek Strong's #391, is found in the NT 13 times, translated as “conversation” in the following verses:
Galatians 1:13 - For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
Ephesians 4:22 - That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
1 Timothy 4:12 - Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.
Hebrews 13:7 - Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
James 3:13 - Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
1 Peter 1:13-19 - Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1 Peter 2:12 - Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.
1 Peter 3:1-2 - Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
1 Peter 3:16 - Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
2 Peter 2:7 - And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
2 Peter 3:11 - Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
Politeuomai, Greek Strong's #4176, is found twice in the NT, translated as live (1), let (one's) conversation be (1). Strong’s defines it as “to behave as a citizen.”
Philippians 1:27 - Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
Politeuma, Greek Strong's #4175, is found once in the NT, translated as “conversation.” It is used in the following verse:
Philippians 3:20 - For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Tropos, Greek Strong's #5158, is found 13 times in the NT, translated as as + <G3739> (3), even as + <G2596> + <G3739> (2), way (2), means (2), even as + <G3739> (1), in like manner as + <G3639> (1), manner (1), conversation (1).
Hebrews 13:5 - Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Easton's Bible Dictionary, Matthew George Easton, 1897
Conversation
Generally the goings out and in of social intercourse ((Eph 2:3; Eph 4:22); R.V., "manner of life"); one's deportment or course of life. This word is never used in Scripture in the sense of verbal communication from one to another (Ps 50:23; Heb 13:5). In Php 1:27 and Php 3:20, a different Greek word is used. It there means one's relations to a community as a citizen, i.e., citizenship.
“Did Paul claim to be a citizen of Rome?”
http://www.hisholychurch.net/pdfiles/law/Roman.pdf
In Philippians 3:20 we see, “For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:”

But the word ‘conversation’ is from politeuma meaning “1) the administration of civil affairs or of a commonwealth 2) the constitution of a commonwealth, form of government and the laws by which it is administered 3) a state, commonwealth 3a) the commonwealth of citizens”

We see a similar word in, Philippians 1:27, “Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;”

Normally the word “conversation” is from the Greek tropos or anastrophe and does mean “a manner, way, as, conduct”.

But in the above text the Greek term politeuomai is specifically used and means, “a citizen; to be a citizen 2) to administer civil affairs, manage the state 3) to make or create a citizen 3a) to be a citizen.”

Why does he say citizenship instead of tropos or anastrophe? Christ preached a kingdom not a religion. The people hailed him as king and God, the Magi, shepherds, angels, the people of Jerusalem and even Pilate proclaimed Him as king. As king he told us who to apply to and we know that we should not follow the ways of the Nicolaitans who apply at the altars of force and power and eat of that civil sacrifice. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Rev. 2:6. Those who follow those ancient ways of Cain and Egypt become unequally yoked with unbeliever who are more desirous of their neighbor’s goods than preserving their neighbor’s God given rights and like the slothful go under tribute.
Commentaries on the Bible, vol. III, Matthew Henry, c. 1704
"V. Full instructions given to us all how to prevent this fearful doom. Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter; we have it, v. 23, which directs us what to do that we may attain our chief end. 1. Man's chief end is to glorify God, and we are here told that whoso offers praise glorifies Him; whether he be Jew or Gentile, those spiritual sacrifices shall be accepted from him. We must praise God, and we must sacrifice praise, direct it to God, as every sacrifice was directed; put it into the hands of the priest, our Lord Jesus, who is also the altar; see that it be made by fire, sacred fire, that it be kindled with the flame of holy and devout affection; we must be fervent in spirit, praising the Lord. This He is pleased, in infinite condescension, to interpret as glorifying Him. Hereby we give Him the glory due to His Name and do what we can to advance the interests of His Kingdom among men. 2. Man's chief end, in conjunction with this, is to enjoy God; and we are here told that those who order their conversation aright shall see His salvation. (1.) It is not enough for us to offer praise, but we must withal order our conversation aright. Thanksgiving is good, but thanks-living is better. (2.) Those that would have their conversation right must take care and pains to order it, to dispose it according to rule, to understand their way and to direct it. (3.) Those that take care of their conversation make sure their salvation; them God will make to see His salvation, for it is a salvation ready to be revealed; He will make them to see it and enjoy it, to see it, and to see themselves happy forever in it. Note, The right ordering of the conversation is the only way, and it is a sure way, to obtain the great salvation."
DEFINITIONS

Webster’s Dictionary of the English Language, 1828
CONVERSATION, noun
1. General course of manners; behavior; deportment; especially as it respects morals.
Let your conversation be as becometh the gospel. Philippians 1:27.
Be ye holy in all manner of conversation 1 Peter 1:15.
2. A keeping company; familiar intercourse; intimate fellowship or association; commerce in social life. Knowledge of men and manners is best acquired by conversation with the best company.
3. Intimate and familiar acquaintance; as a conversation with books, or other object.
4. Familiar discourse; general intercourse of sentiments; chat; unrestrained talk; opposed to a formal conference.
What I mentioned in conversation was not a new thought.
[This is now the most general use of the word.]
CONVERSANT, adjective [See Converse.]
1. Keeping company; having frequent or customary intercourse; intimately associating; familiar by fellowship or cohabitation; acquainted.
But the men were very good to us--as long as we were conversant with them. 1 Samuel 25:15.
Never to be infected with delight, nor conversant with ease and idleness.
2. Acquainted by familiar use or study. We correct our style, and improve our taste, by being conversant with the best classical writers. In the foregoing applications, this word is most generally followed by with, according to present usage. In was formerly used; and both in and among may be used.
3. Concerning; having concern, or relation to; having for its object; followed by about.
Education is conversant about children.
CONVERSE, verb intransitive [Latin , to be turned. Literally, to be turned to or with; to be turned about.]
1. To keep company; to associate; to cohabit; to hold intercourse and be intimately acquainted; followed by with.
For him who lonely loves to seek the distant hills, and their converse with nature.
2. To have sexual commerce.
3. To talk familiarly; to have free intercourse in mutual communication of thoughts and opinions; to convey thoughts reciprocally; followed by with before the person addressed, and on before the subject. converse as friend with friend. We have often conversed with each other on the merit of Miltons poetry. [This is now the most general use of the word.]
CONVERSE, noun
1. Conversation; familiar discourse or talk; free interchange of thoughts or opinions.
Formed by thy converse happily to steer from grave to gay, from lively to severe.
2. Acquaintance by frequent or customary intercourse; cohabitation; familiarity. In this sense, the word may include discourse, or not; as, to hold converse with persons of different sects; or to hold converse with terrestrial things.
3. In mathematics, an opposite proposition; thus, after drawing a conclusion from something supposed, we invert the order, making the conclusion the supposition or premises, and draw from it what was first supposed. Thus, if two sides of a triangle are equal, the angles opposite the sides are equal: and the converse is true; if these angles are equal, the two sides are equal.

Bouvier’s Law Dictionary, 1856
CONVERSANT.

One who is in the habit of being in a particular place, is said to be conversant there. Barnes, 162.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 1st Edition, 1891
CONVERSANT.

One who is in the habit of being in a particular place is said to be conversant there. Barnes, 162. Acquainted; familiar.
CONVERSANTES.

In old English law. Conversant or dwelling; commorant.
CRIM. CON.

An abbreviation for “criminal conversation," of very frequent use, denoting adultery.

The Century Dictionary, an Encyclopedic Lexicon of the English Language, 1895
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Black’s Law Dictionary, 2nd Edition, 1910
CONVERSANT.

One who is in the habit of being in a particular place is said to be conversant there. Barnes,162. Acquainted; familiar.
CONVERSANTES. In old English law.

Conversant or dwelling; commorant.
CONVERSATION.

Manner of living; habits of life; conduct; as in the phrase "chaste life and conversation." Bradshaw v. People, 153 111. 156, 38 N. E. 652. "Criminal conversation" means seduction of another man's wife, considered as an actionable injury to the husband, Prettyman v. Williamson, 1 Pennewlll (Del.) 224, 30 Atl. 731; Crocker v. Crocker, 98 Fed. 702.
CRIM. CON.

An abbreviation for "criminal conversation," of very frequent use, denoting adultery. Gibson v. Cincinnati Enquirer, 10 Fed. Cas. 311.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 4th Edition, 1968
CONVERSANT.

One who is in the habit of being in a particular place is said to be conversant there. Barnes, 162. Acquainted; familiar.
CONVERSANTES. In old English law.

Conversant or dwelling; commorant.
CONVERSATION.

Manner of living; habits of life; conduct; as in the phrase "chaste life and conversation." Bradshaw v. People, 153 Ill. 156, 38 N.E. 652. Criminal conversation means seduction of another man's wife, considered as an actionable injury to the husband. Prettyman v. Williamson, 1 Pennewill (Del.) 224, 39 A. 731; Crocker v. Crocker, C.C.Mass., 98 F. 702.
CRIMINAL CONVERSATION

Defilement of the marriage bed, sexual intercourse of an outsider with husband or wife, or a breaking down of the covenant of fidelity. Young v. Young, 236 Ala. 627, 184 So. 187, 190, 191. Adultery, considered in its aspect of a civil injury to the husband entitling him to damages; the tort of debauching or seducing of a wife. Often abbreviated to crim. con.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 5th Edition, 1979
Conversant.

One who is in the habit of being in a particular place is said to be conversant there. Acquainted;
familiar.
Conversantes

In old English law, conversant or dwelling; commorant
.
Conversation.

Manner of living; behavior habits of life; conduct; as in the phrase "chaste life and conversation."
Criminal conversation means seduction of another man's wife, considered as an actionable
injury to the husband. See Criminal (Criminal conversation ).
Criminal conversation.

Defilement of the marriage bed, sexual intercourse of an outsider with husband or wife, or a breaking down of the covenant of fidelity. Tort action based on adultery, considered in its aspect of a civil injury to the husband or wife entitling him or her to damages; the tort of debauching or seducing of a wife or husband. Often abbreviated to crim. con. Statutes in several states prohibit actions for criminal conversation. See Alienation of affections; Heart-balm statutes.
QUOTES

Sir Winston Churchill:
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
Oscar Wilde:
Ultimately the bond of all companionship, whether in marriage or in friendship, is conversation.
MISCELLANEOUS CITATIONS

Commonwealth v. Senauskas, 191 A. 167, 326 Pa. 69, 23 C.J.S.,
"Judges should not have conversations with counsel on one side relating to disposition of case without presence of opposing counsel."
Commentaries on the Laws of England in Four Books, vol. 2, Sir William Blackstone, 1753
2. Adultery, or criminal conversation with a man’s wife, though it is, as a public crime, left by our laws to the coercion of the spiritual courts; yet, considered as a civil injury, (and surely there can be no greater,) the law gives a satisfaction to the husband for it by action of trespass vi et armis against the adulterer, wherein the damages recovered are usually very large and exemplary. But these are properly increased and diminished by circumstances; as the rank and fortune of the plaintiff and defendant; the relation or connection between them; the seduction or otherwise of the wife, founded on her previous behaviour and character; and the husband’s obligation, by settlement or otherwise, to provide for those children, which he cannot but suspect to be spurious.