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knorbert
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

1,
Finally I arrived to Malaysia on 29 Nov.
Well it started in a very interesting way.
I tried to talk on facebook with a local Indonesian "friend" who lives in Kuala Lumpur (KL), just to meet with him again personally.
Well he acted on fb like he's beating around the bush, like he was okay to hear me/ to be close to me, but he didn't want me to hear from him, to be close to him.
So I went to his workplace (a clothes shop), but he acted the same way as on fb, like he's happy to see me but he doesn't want me, even his smile and eyes showed there is something strange there.
But I was so happy and existed as anybody else would be after the 3 years long covid lockdown, and I really felt happy to be outside of pro-ex-KGB EU/ Hungary.
I heard years ago from a USA-Malaysian that locals don't like those who go away to live elsewhere and then later visit them.. but my story was different than that.

Anyway this happened with me;
Pretty fast I ended up in a kind of "innocent until proven guilty" set up. He ("my" friend) started to give me job while he ate his food, and I helped him though my plan wasn't to work there, because I just arrived and my origin plan was to visit Thailand in the next week.
Well everybody in the shop looked excited about me, and I helped "my-friend", but about 30 minutes later he started to questioning me in an accusing way while he and another Muslim and a Christian were standing above me, "Are you Norbert Israeli?!" and so on few times. I was speechless and I was sitting in a corner and they stood above me. And then he said me "Are you Norbert Israeli?! Because Israelis cannot work in Malaysia!!". I had no idea what was going on, anyway he/ they pushed my blood pressure up and my face was red and shocked. That was enough for them to believe in and to prove that with what they accused me. And he ("my"-friend) used that moment as an evil or an arrogant witch hunter judge.
Anyway few minutes later I left them, but I still didn't understand anything and I wasn't angry with him, but I was confused, though his smile, eyes showed how bad, ugly he was. There was something in his eyes from first moment until the last moment when I walked away.

Well he was bad, rude years ago too sometimes, just as with an African too, the African was very strong and 2 head taller than him, and he too complained many times about how he behaved for no reason.. And I too experienced his rude, bad behavior sometimes. But none of us wanted to hurt a smaller, weaker annoying person because he was already pathetic.
And years ago he loved to make fun with saying customers "He's from Israel..." but those were more like jokes in his own business, but looking back now I shouldn't let him to say it about me.
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- I never thought how easy to frame anybody with "guilty until proven innocent" trick and with the "body-language-trick". Just need the person's trust to be naive enough to be framed/ scammed, just as cheaters do it in any other scam.
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- Anyway after that "event" I went back to ChowKit a few times, just to see how it looks like, and to talk with other people. I talked with a Malay family, they were nice with me always, and they asked me to work for them, but I said no. Well I only went to KL for visit and I already wanted to go to Thailand also, and I wanted to come back to Hungary. Well I came back 3 weeks earlier than my plan was. All because everything was different in Malaysia and Thailand, and I want to continue my protest in Hungary.
******
2,

Slowly I started to put things together about "Are you an Israeli?", and I went to pray few times.
And then I visited Thailand.
Sadly Thailand legalized the drug and that really changed the tourism in Thailand.
I really hope and think the drug tourism will be regulated because I believe the drug money not gonna be able to replace that part of tourists who don't want to be next to drug (people like me and families etc).
3,
******
I came back to KL 10 days later.
a)
I sent an email to the Archbishop in Kuala Lumpur, to ask His Excellence's help in this persecution.


This was my email;
Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
20, Dec, 2022. Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur
To; Archbishop Julian Leow Beng Kim,
-Embassy of Hungary in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia,
-FIDESZ party; -KDNP (Christian Democratic People's Party),
-Viktor Orbán Príme Minister of Hungary,

Dear Archbishop Julian Leow Beng Kim,
And Prime Minister of Hungary and Sir, Madam.

I'd like to ask Your Excellence's help.
-Could Your Excellence please talk with the Hungarian
FIDESZ-KDNP government to stop the racist communist crime against my life?
This persecution officially started under FIDESZ-KDNP government. And the KDNP (Christian Democratic People's Party) controlled the health care in that time.

Reasoning:
A; - I'm Hungarian and a victim of politically motivated attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), psychiatric fraud atempt. It started in 2015 and Russian communist agent ideology has benefit from it.

-Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) with case like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours".

B; - This how it started and what happened:
1; - Unknown people harassed, bullied me stronger and stronger on phone, Internet, etc, for years (uglier things also happened) and police rejected to help me.
2; - And then I visited the family doctor to renew my driving licence on 15 September 2015. And I told her what have been happening with me. The family doctor without psychiatric qualification said that I'm paranoid. I told her I only accept independent psychiatric examination where former and present communists and their relatives cannot be present, - for reason I was born in 1972 in a family of victims of communist crimes.
3; - But they rejected my rights everywhere, sometimes they even said me for example; "Nobody cares that "stupid" law".
4; - And then they corrupted my medical history and insurance with false medical reports.
Therefore I cannot do anything which demands legal health protection. For example; I cannot work legally. My travel rights are limited. Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this.
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Comment; - My father was Roman Chatolic, my mother is Reformed Church (Református) Christian. And communists didn't let my parents to take me to the church to baptise me when I was just a toddler. And after communism I wasn't ready to be baptised when my grandmother asked me, though sometimes I prayed to God, Jesus.
- I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims, but others too helped me (for example an old Methodist Chinese man gave me some useful advice, and Falun Dafa also). And Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution. - It's not possible to stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help.
- I swear and I state that I'm /Norbert Kimár/ mentally healthy person and I've never been on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary.

Yours faithfully; Norbert Kimár


b)
About "Are you Israeli?", and how I solved it "on my own" with 2 Muslims;


A Hungarian story was in my mind. Many years ago a HirTV reporter (Simicska's reporter, govt opposition) visited a village in Hungary, and the conversation turned on "Who are the Muslims?", and the villagers repeated the fear news propaganda; "Muslims have big beard and have bombs, etc..".

Well I used that reporter's question, so I asked 2 Muslims in different time in the hostel;
- "Are you Muslim?", I asked..
- "Yes"
- "Can you tell me how you/ Muslims know/ find out who is Israeli?", I asked it..
- "What!?"
And then I talked about what happened with me. And I said my name is Norbert which is German and Christian, and I've my foreskin on my penis.
First Muslim said me;
- "Maybe your face looks like an Israeli?"
- "That's not good (enough) because there are African, Arabian, European etc Jews". I answered..
- "Why didn't you ask from them 'Why do you ask this from me?' ?".
Then I talked about the HirTV report, how the villagers acted in Hungary, and I said I started to think about this kind of Muslims as "Yahudi-Hunters".. (I meant in this the low IQ Muslims on Borat comedy level.. but it's not about fun but worth to laugh how pathetic was "my-friend".)

And the 2nd Muslim said me "-He is not authority to do that! Go and report him to JAWI (religion police)!"..
Both Muslim wa right but the last Muslim was really useful, I had luck with him, he was young and looked like who is learning and practicing the religion.
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Problem isn't start when they ask someone whether he/ she is a Jew/ Israeli, but problem starts for example when they use it purposely to accuse falsely an innocent with violating the law.
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Interesting is, if a witch-hunt like this ended in a tragedy then immediately the racist Hungarian political stone age ultra news (left, right, liberals, conservative etc) with their trolls are saying "He deserved it, he went to the stone age people... instead of to be with 1 of us...".
So if it wasn't a "coincidence" then no wonder who had almost benefit from it. And as I said, he didn't even want to unfriend or block me from his facebook, he was just beating around the bush and stayed close to me.
Later I wrote him a facebook message including what a Muslim said me "Go and report him to JAWI, because he is not authority to do that.." and then days later I unfriend him in facebook and not he me.
*****

I don't know who made him to do this to me, but to be honest I rather went after the problem as I always do it. And it gave me power and purpose to write letter, this time to the Archbishop in Kuala Lumpur to ask help there. And before I sent the email I visited the local church next to the Archbishop to check the protocol of letters, and email address because Internet gives unreliable informations. And they told me to go and talk with the Archbishop, but I preferred the email, all because Hungarian system is that corrupt, evil.
So if my enemies was who turned "my-friend" against me, then it backfired on them, and I'm proud to say that I solved and I used it positively in constructive way.. And my enemies can fabricate another false commie moral tuning for themselves.
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So I'm back in Hungary and I want to protest again in asap. And right now I don't have any plan to visit Malaysia in the near future but I remember on its help positively.
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Edit
Just to make it more clear why I used the "Yahudi-hunter" in my thoughts/ heart as an example of Borat comedy's pathetic low IQ people, instead of poisoning my self with a low IQ question "Are you Israeli Norbert?! Because Israelis cannot work in Malaysia!".
Anyway as I said already there are same "Borat" people here in Hungary too, as a reporter proved it.
And I personally experienced there are even attorneys who work as civil servants, etc in Hungary and their knowledge about "who are the Muslims" is very close to "Borat" comedy.
Last edited by knorbert on Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
knorbert
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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1,
I found an interesting news.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022 ... persian-gu
https://www.dw.com/en/eu-corruption-sca ... a-64065928

Some EU Parliament members corruptly tried to cover up human rights violations in Qatar, and maybe elsewhere too like in Morocco. And they got a lot of money for that in cash from those countries.
Most of them were left wing socialists, but not all of them, and for example in my case the Hungarian govt is Conservative and Christian party (FIDESZ-KDNP), and the EU secret services reject to help me.
* Well human rights violations exist in all countries, but on different level. And even this news shows they trade with human rights crimes as they can.
As they say "You scratch my back, I scratch yours" exists in life, and secret services aren't just swapping captured spies, etc. Even a Malaysian once said me in facebook; some of the corrupt Malay politicians gonna trade/ sale me if I'm saying too many times that "I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, and Malaysian system put political pressure on Hungarian system to step back a little in this crime".
* But actually I was warned in the first month too in Malaysia by locals to be careful because somebody gonna betray me for money. - I guess that's what EU politicians and greedy people forget always; Muslim world has strong mouth to mouth, etc communications about problems.
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And I'm just curious, but sure a statistic of persecuted people's problems in that time could show how the politicians, criminal lobbies and counter intelligences worked even after the arrests of EU politicians, and statistic could say much more about involved countries and members of them.
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lol, And I just realized another thing;
This corrupt EU counter intelligences would spend the same amount of money but in 1 hour what I've been spending since 2015, and not sure what they would achieve in this ex-KGB crime and for whose benefit.
lol, That'd be Orbán's, Pimtér's budget too, no wonder why they could only divide me with only 1 person in Malaysia.. Probably they stole their own lobbies dirty money from that "lobby mission in KL"..

2,
I started my new year with information about my next protest.
01-January-2023., I sent email to Hungarian authorities and Russian Embassy, Foreign Ministry, SVR, FSB.
I informed them about the date 11-01-2023 and place of my next protest in Budapest. this time I want to express my opinion front of Christian Democratic Party KDNP too.
Címzett: -Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -Demetr Zoltán, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Semjén Zsolt
-Dr Kövér László; Országház Hivatala; -Országház; Országgyűlési Őrség, -Terror Háza Múzeum, Schmidt Mária,
-Kiss Zsolt, Főigazgató, Nemzeti Egészségbiztosítási Alapkezelő (NEAK)
-Dr Müller Cecília, országos tisztifőorvos, Nemzeti Népegészségügyi Központ, (NNK)
-Dr Alakszai Zoltán, BAZ-Megyei Kormánymegbízott, -Dr Asztalos Ágnes, főosztályvezető, Népegészségügyi Főosztály,
-Dr Hudák Zita, Edelényi Járási Hiv., Dr Király Mária, Népegészségügyi Oszt.
-Dr Motkó Tamás, -Lászlóné Kovács Mária, -Szabó Ilona, -Dr Lencár Márta, -Dr Tímár József,
-Szitka Péter, Polgármester Kazincbarcika, -Weilandics Miklós Foglalkoztatási Oszt., Dr Agonás Lajos Béla Kbarcika Járási Hiv.
-Dr Bakk Richárd; Kazincbarcikai Rendőrkapitány, -Országos Rendőr Főkapitányság (ORFK),
-Budapesti Rendőr Főkapitányság (BRFK), stb Magyarországi Rendőrségek
-Kazincbarcikai Járásbíróság, -Országos Bíróság Hivatal, stb Magyarországi Bíróságok
-Kazincbarcikai Járási Ügyészség, -Központi Nyomozó Főügyészség, -Legfőbb Ügyészség, -stb Magyarországi Ügyészség
-Dr Varga Judit Igazságügyi Miniszter, -Pintér Sándor Belügyminiszter, -Dr. Takács Péter egészségügyért felelős államtitkár
-Oroszország Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, Sztaniszlavov Evgenij Arnoldovics Nagykövet, -Oroszország Kormánya, -SVR, -FSB

Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-;
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 20220509ToJaHiKbTB.PDF; 20221014Otthon.JPG; KimarN20220831Bp.JPG

Tárgy: Kommunista rasszizmus elleni véleménynyilvánítás dátuma

Tisztelt Cím!
Ismételten a véleményemet kinyilvánítani szándékozom (egyedül), Budapesten, és álláskeresési cél miatt is. -Ez néhány perc lenne. -Egyedül és békésen akarok menni transzparensekkel és némán, ragasztószalaggal a számon (hogy bizonyítsam hogy némán csinálom ezt). -És videó felvételt ls fényképeket akarok csinálni a teljes eseményről.
Ennek dátuma és helyszíne: 2023, január, 11
Kossuth tér/ Parlament; -Orosz Nagykövetség, -FIDESZ Székház, 1062 Lendvay utca 28; -KDNP Székház, 1141 Bazsarózsa ut 69
Indoklás; Mert a hatóságok rasszista kommunista bűnei, korrupciói elnyomják az emberi jogaimat és veszélyeztetik az életemet Magyarországon 2015 óta. -És több alkalommal küldtem e-mailt a Terrorháza Múzeumnak amelyekben bizonyítékot akarok kapni a kommunista történelmi bűncselekményről, mivel a magyar hatóságok tagadják és paranoia jelének hívják ezek ismeretét is. A Múzeum sosem válaszolt idáig.
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Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemet, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem.
- Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben. - Külföldi jogi segítség nélkül nem lehet megállítani ezt a rasszista diszkriminatív kommunista bűncselekményt.
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- Név: Kimár Norbert, - Lakcím: Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
- Születési idő, hely, Állampolgárság: 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, január, 01
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert

*** Angolul, In English. ***


To: -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -Zoltán Demeter, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zsolt Semjén
-Dr László Kövér; Office of Parliament; -Parliament; Guards of Parliament; -House of Terror Museum, Mária Schmidt,
-Zsolt Kiss, Director General, Tasks of the National Health Insurance Fund of Hungary (NEAK),
-Dr Cecília Müller, National Chief Medical Officer, National Public Health Center (NNK)
-Dr Zoltán Alaszkai, Govt Commissioner; BAZ County Govt Office, -Dr Ágnes Asztalos, National Public Health Department,
-Dr Zita Hudák, District Office of Edelény; Dr Mária Király, National Public Health Dept.
-Dr Tamás Motkó, -Lászlóné Kovács Mária, -Ilona Szabó, -Dr Márta Lencár, -Dr József Tímár,
-Péter Szitka, Mayor of Kazincbarcika, -Miklós Weilandics Employment Dept., Dr Lajos Béla Agonás District Office of Kbarcika
-Dr Richárd Bakk police chief of Kazincbarcika, -National (Country) Police Headquarters (ORFK)
-Budapest Police Headquarters (BRFK), etc Hungarian Police
-Kazincbarcika District Court, -National Office for Judiciary, etc Hungarian Courts
-Kazincbarcika District Prosecution Office, -Central Chief Prosecution Office of Investigation, -Supreme Prosecution Office, etc Hungarian Prosecution
-Dr Judit Varga Minister of Justice, -Sándor Pintér Minister of Interior, -Dr Péter Takács Secretary of State for Health
-Russian Embassy in Hungary, -Stanislavov Evgeniy Arnoldovich Ambassador, -Government of Russia, -SVR, -FSB

Attachment: KimarN_SzIg.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-;
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 20220509ToJaHiKbTB.PDF; 20221014Otthon.JPG; KimarN20220831Bp.JPG

Subject: Date of expressing opinion against communist racism

Dear Sir, Madam,
I repeatedly want to express my opinion (in alone), in Budapest (Hungary), for job search too. -This would be a few minutes. -I want to walk alone and peacefully with my banners and mutely, with duct-tap on my mouth (to prove I'm doing it mutely). -And I want to make video recordings and photos about the entire event.
It's date and location: 11, January, 2023,
Kossuth tér/ Parliament; -Russian Embassy; -FIDESZ Headquarters, 1062 Lendvay utca 28; -KDNP Headquarters, 1141 Bazsarózsa ut 69
Reasoning; Because the authorities racist communist crimes, corruption has been oppressing my human rights and endangering my life in Hungary since 2015. -And I sent e-mail many times to House of Terror Museum in what I want to get proof about communist historical crimes, because the Hungarian authorities deny and call sign of paranoia the knowledge of these too. The Museum never replied.
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Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor.
- I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution. - It's not possible to stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help.
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- Name: Mr. Norbert Kimár, - Address: Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
- Birth place, date, Nationality; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
01, January, 2023. Hungary
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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08-January-2023,
I sent again the following email to Defense Ministry of Hungary, NCIA (NATO Intelligence), etc to get a job as "reservist" or advise, because they didn't reply to me.
-It's unbelievable how high and far goes this racist communist /ex-KGB crime against my life.
And for example every week there are news about Ukrainian citizens were being captured/ arrested for treason, spying or giving up Ukraine army's positions, meanwhile pro-ex-KGB authorities inside EU can run illegally whatever they want..

- This time also the NCI Agency sent a robot reply right after I sent my email and it said that; "Please be assured that it will be given our full attention; however, we may not respond to it immediately.
Please expect our response within 3 working days."
- And also a robot reply came from the Hungarian Interior Ministry too, they will answer me or they forwarded my letter, etc..
I can't fore tell how they will respond but my experience says that they will ignore it, because a misleading pro-ex-KGB Hungarian authority answer isn't a good reflection for NCI Agency. But I don't know how careless can be NATO's intelligence, because Hungarian system is part of ex-KGB, and Russia is known as arrogantly careless, and NATO has been living carelessly with this since Hungary joined them long ago. But as I said this Russian war on Ukraine is already bad for my enemies and for their friends, etc too, and luckily Turkey already was different than Western Europe, literally NATO has 3 groups 1st USA & Canada, 2nd Turkey, 3rd Western & Eastern Europe and 3rd is the ultra pro-ex-KGB.

my email is in Hungarian and English:
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2022, január. 08
Címzett: -Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Demeter Zoltán,
-Dr Varga Judit Igazságügyi Miniszter, -Pintér Sándor Belügyminiszter, -Dr. Takács Péter egészségügyért felelős államtitkár
-Szalay-Bobrovniczky Kristóf Honvédelmi Miniszter, -Weilandics Miklós Foglalkoztatási Oszt.
-Jens Stoltenberg NATO Főtitkár, -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Hírszerző ügynökségei),

Tárgy: Mit tudnak tanácsolni nekem? 02,email
Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg.jpg; 20151115Consul.png; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf
20220513KimarNotthon.JPG; 20220509ToJaHiKbTB.PDF; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-

Tisztelt Cím!
Tudnának törvényesen alkalmazni például mint tartalékos katona, vagy megmondani hogyan kellene dolgoznom máshol az életben?
Mivel a magyar hatóságok rasszista (kommunista) bűnei elnyomják az emberi jogaimat 2015 óta.
Indoklás:
A; - Gondolatszabadság megsértési (átnevelés) kísérletnek vagyok áldozata, 2015-ben kezdődött és az ex-KGB-nek (FSB, SVR) Orosz kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért.
-Magyar Ombudsman (ENSZ) ezt mondta nekem 2015-ben: "Nem azt mondom, hogy Ön az első (áldozat) ilyen (rasszista diszkriminatív) üggyel mint az Öné, hanem hogy nekünk nincs ilyen ügyről jegyzőkönyvünk mint az Öné."
-Magyar hatóság, stb ezt mondták nekem; - Együttműködési hasznok, például: pénz segély, nyugdíj. Vagy; "Hagyja el az országot (emigrálj)"; "Senkit sem érdekel ez a "hülye" törvény"; "Gyámság kell".
-NATO tag Törökország segítőkész volt és figyelmeztetett engem az üldöztetés előtt (de naiv voltam). Tehát EU-n belül csinálják ezt.
-Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok, de mások is segítettek nekem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben. - Külföldi jogi segítség nélkül nem lehet megállítani ezt a rasszista diszkriminatív kommunista bűncselekményt.
- Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy én (Kimár Norbert) szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha nem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon.
B; - Ezek amit a hatóságok/ orvosok törvénytelenül csinálnak ellenem Magyarországon:
1; -Az orvosok/hatóságok orvosilag akarnak kijavítani/ rákényszeríteni, hogy adjam fel hitetlenségemet a volt kommunizmusban. Szó szerint orvosilag akarnak meggyőzni hogy:
- a,- nem volt rossz a kommunizmusuk.
- b,- hagyjak fel a volt kommunisták és hozzátartozóik, stb. előítéletei elleni jogaimmal, habár én és családom a kommunista bűnök áldozata volt.
- c,- és azt is, hogy az erős zaklatás stb. bűncselekmények soha nem történtek ellenem, és ezért nem segítettek nekem a rendőrök.
2; -Vagy pedig az orvosok/ hatóságok, stb orvosilag próbálják elhallgattatni/ hitelteleníteni a gondolataimat, véleményeimet, stb, ahogy a kommunizmusban is csinálták. És az ex-kommunistáknak és hozzátartozóiknak van haszna belőle.
C; - Nem tudom megtenni amit akarnak mert nem hiszek a kommunizmusban, és mert:
1; - végleg elveszíteném a gondolat és véleményszabadság jogomat a demokráciában.
2; - már elvesztettem a védelmet:
- a,- az egészségügyben 2015 óta: -háziorvosok hamis orvosi jelentésekkel meghamisították az egészségügyi törzskartonomat és biztosításomat, - és a hatóságok elutasítják megállítani és törölni ezeket a hamis jelentéseket, - és az orvosok, a hatóságok elutasítják a "más származású"/ társadalmi származású jogaimat, és gondolat/ vélemény-jogaimat, amikor előítéletet akarok megakadályozni. (Kommunisták "egyéb származású"-nak is hívták a családokat mint az enyémet.)
- b,- és bűnmegelőzésben: ahogy a rendőrök, orvosok stb. bizonyították és mondták nekem, hogy nem érdekli őket a törvény ennél.
3; - Ezért nem tudok semmit se csinálni ami törvényes egészségvédelmet követel. Például; Nem tudok legálisan dolgozni. Az utazási jogaim korlátozottak. Magán egészségbiztosítók ügyvédei azt mondták hogy emiatt nem tudnak szerződést kötni velem.
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Habár nem vagyok katonai személy, de az állampolgárságom NATO tag, és tisztában vagyok vele hogy az EU civil titkosszolgálatai sokkal felelősebbek ebben a bűnben mint a NATO-é. És azt hiszem több mint szégyen a NATO hírszerző EU részének ilyen leveleket kapni, - és valószínűleg a segítőkész külföldi országoknak minden felelős titkosszolgálatot meg kell nézniük, amikor törvényesen úgy döntenek, hogy "figyelmeztetik" vagy "segítik" a külföldieket. - Malajzia azonnal segíteni kezdett engem 2015-ben, és a magyarok egy része meglepődik és boldogan hallgatja ezt a segítséget, nem úgy mint sok hatóság stb Magyarországon/ EU-ban.
Tisztelettel; Kimár Norbert

*** Angolul / In English ***

Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
08, January, 2023. Hungary,
To: -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zoltán Demeter,
-Dr Judit Varga Minister of Justice, -Sándor Pintér Minister of Interior, -Dr Péter Takács Secretary of State for Health
-Kristóf Szalay-Bobrovniczky Minister of Hungarian Defence, -Miklós Weilandics Employment Dept.
-Jens Stoltenberg Secretary General of NATO; -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Intelligence),

Subject: What can you advise me? 02,email
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Dear Sir, Madam,
Could you lawfully employ me for example as a reservist, or tell me how should I work elsewhere in this life?
Because Hungarian authorities' racist (communist) crimes have been oppressing my human rights since 2015.
Reasoning:
A; - I'm a victim of attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), it started in 2015 and ex-KGB (FSB, SVR) Russian communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And FIDESZ-KDNP govt too is responsible for that.
-Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) of this kind of (racial discrimination) case like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours".
-That's what Hungarian authorities, etc said to me; - Cooperation benefits, for example: money aid, pension. Or; "Leave the country (emigrate)"; "Nobody cares that "stupid" law."; "Need guardianship".
-NATO member Turkey was helpful and warned me before persecution started (but I was naive). So they do it inside EU.
-I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims, but others too helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution. - It's not possible to stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help.
- I swear and I state that I'm (Norbert Kimár) mentally healthy person and I've never been on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary.
B; - These are what authorities/ doctors do unlawfully against me in Hungary:
1; -Doctors/ authorities medically want to correct/ force me to give up my disbelief in the former communism. Literally they medically want to convince me that:
- a,- their communism was not bad.
- b,- to give up my rights against the prejudice of ex-communists, and their relatives, etc., though I and my family were victim of communist crimes.
- c,- and also that the strong harassment, etc crimes never happened against me, and therefore police didn't help me.
2; -Or doctors/ authorities, etc medically try to silence/ discredit my thoughts, opinions, etc, as they did it under communism too. And it benefits the ex-communists and their relatives.
C; - I cannot do what they want because I don't believe in communism, and because:
1; - I would lose permanently my rights in the freedom of thought and opinion in democracy.
2; - I already lost protection:
- a,- in health care in (since) 2015: -family doctors have falsified my health history and insurance with false medical reports, and authorities refuse to stop and delete these false reports. - and doctors, authorities reject my "other-descent"/ social origin rights, and my thought/ opinion rights, when I want to prevent prejudice. (Communists even called "other origin" families like mine.)
- b,- and in prevention of crime: as police, doctors etc proved and said to me that they don't care about laws in this.
3; - Therefore I cannot do anything which demands legal health protection. For example; I cannot work legally. My travel rights are limited. Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this.
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Though I'm not a military person, but my citizenship is NATO member, and I'm aware of that the EU civil secret services are more responsible in this crime than NATO's. And I believe it's more than a shame on the intelligence part of EU's NATO to receive letters like this, - and probably helpful foreign countries have to look at all responsible intelligences when they lawfully decide to "warn" or "help" foreigners. - Malaysia started to help me immediately in 2015, and some Hungarians are surprised and they are happy to hear this help, unlike many authorities, etc in Hungary/ EU.
Yours faithfully; Norbert Kimár
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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09-January-2023,
I sent again my same email to EU countries' civil and defence secret services, so far they didn't reply, as always only some robot reply came to say they received my email.

my question:
-What is your plan with the victims of communist crimes and their relatives in peace and war time?
-Whose duty is to stop this communist crime (re-education) and treason in EU?
-When does it mean "(blackmail style) recruiting" to EU's secret services?

and this is the email:
Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
09, January, 2023. Hungary,
To; Governments/ Ministries and Armies/ Defense leaders of EU's 27 countries.
Some countries don't have emails just "e-Contact Form", etc, therefore I sent this to them there.

Dear Sir, Madam,
Could EU's civil and military, defense secret services and EU's NATO part tell;
-What is your plan with the victims of communist crimes and their relatives in peace and war time?
-Whose duty is to stop this communist crime (re-education) and treason in EU?
-When does it mean "(blackmail style) recruiting" to EU's secret services?
Reasoning:
A; - I'm a victim of attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), it started in 2015 and ex-KGB (FSB, SVR) Russian communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And FIDESZ govt too is responsible for that.
-Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) of this kind of (racial discrimination) case like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours".
-That's what Hungarian authorities, etc said to me; - Cooperation benefits, for example: money aid, pension. Or; "Leave the country (emigrate)"; "Nobody cares that "stupid" law."; "Need guardianship".
-NATO member Turkey was helpful and warned me before persecution started (but I was naive). So they do it inside EU.
-I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims, but others too helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution. - It's not possible to stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help.
- I swear and I state that I'm /Norbert Kimár/ mentally healthy person and I've never been on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary.
B; - These are what authorities/ doctors do unlawfully against me in Hungary:
1; -Doctors/ authorities medically want to correct/ force me to give up my disbelief in the former communism. Literally they medically want to convince me that:
- a,- their communism was not bad.
- b,- to give up my rights against the prejudice of ex-communists, and their relatives, etc., though I and my family was victim of communist crimes.
- c,- and also that the strong harassment, etc crimes never happened against me, and therefore police didn't help me.
2; -Or doctors/ authorities, etc medically try to silence/ discredit my thoughts, opinions, etc, as they did it under communism too. And it benefits the ex-communists and their relatives.
C; - I cannot do what they want because I don't believe in communism, and because:
1; - I would lose permanently my rights in the freedom of thought and opinion in democracy.
2; - I already lost protection:
- a,- in health care in (since) 2015: -family doctors have falsified my health history and insurance with false medical reports, and authorities refuse to stop and delete these false reports. - and doctors, authorities reject my "other-descent"/ social origin rights, and my thought/ opinion rights, when I want to prevent prejudice. (Communists even called "other origin" families like mine.)
- b,- and in prevention of crime: as police, doctors etc proved and said to me that they don't care about laws in this.
3; - Therefore I cannot do anything which demands legal health protection. For example; I cannot work legally. My travel rights are limited. Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this.
D; - How it started, what happened:
1; - Unknown people harassed, bullied me stronger and stronger on phone, Internet, etc, for years (uglier things too happened) and police rejected to help me.
2; - I visited the family doctor to renew my driving licence on 15 September 2015. And I told her what have been happening to me. The family doctor without psychiatric qualification said that I'm paranoid. I told her I only accept independent psychiatric examination where former and present communists, etc relatives cannot be present, - for reason I was born in a family of victims of communist crimes, and my father tried to get out the communist agents' names, but they didn't give out. - Ever since I realized I'm too victim of them, because I was born in 1972 in communism, and for example communists didn't even let my parents to christen me.
3; - Family doctors and other authorities too rejected my rights for reason: "-It was long ago in communism therefore those expired", "-This is paranoia too", "-Nobody cares that "stupid" law". And they laughed on my rights.
E; - I've been expressing opinion for my rights since 2020:
-But nothing changes, and in Nov. 2021 police took me and I spent 3 nights in a cell, and judgment was pity offence, riot (szabálysértés, garázdaság). Next "wrong" expressing opinion can be 6-9 months in prison (3 strike law).- Pathetic part is that I the victim have to be scared from jail in expressing opinion, and not the guilty authorities, provocateurs etc.
Yours faithfully; Norbert Kimár

*** Magyarul / In Hungarian ***

Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, január, 09
Címzett; EU 27 ország Kormányainak/ Minisztériumainak és Katonai/ (Hon)védelmi vezetőknek.
Néhány országnak nincs e-mailje csak "e-Kapcsolatfelvételi űrlap", stb van, ezért ezt nekik oda küldöm.

Tisztelt Cím!
Meg tudná mondani az EU civil és katonai, (Hon)védelmi titkosszolgálatai és EU-nak NATO része;
-Mi az Önök terve a kommunista bűnök áldozataival és hozzátartozóival béke és háború idején?
-Kinek a kötelessége megállítani ezt a kommunista bűnt (átnevelés) és árulást EU-ban?
-Mikor jelent ez "(zsarolás stílusú) beszervezést" az EU titkosszolgálatainak?
Indoklás:
A; - Gondolatszabadság megsértési (átnevelés) kísérletnek vagyok áldozata, 2015-ben kezdődött és az ex-KGB-nek (FSB, SVR) Orosz kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ kormány is felelős ezért.
-Magyar Ombudsman (ENSZ) ezt mondta nekem 2015-ben: "Nem azt mondom, hogy Ön az első (áldozat) ilyen (rasszista diszkriminatív) üggyel mint az Öné, hanem hogy nekünk nincs ilyen ügyről jegyzőkönyvünk mint az Öné."
-Magyar hatóság, stb ezt mondták nekem; - Együttműködési hasznok, például: pénz segély, nyugdíj. Vagy; "Hagyja el az országot (emigrálj)"; "Senkit sem érdekel ez a "hülye" törvény"; "Gyámság kell".
-NATO tag Törökország segítőkész volt és figyelmeztetett engem az üldöztetés előtt (de naiv voltam). Tehát EU-n belül csinálják ezt.
-Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok, de mások is segítettek nekem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben. - Külföldi jogi segítség nélkül nem lehet megállítani ezt a rasszista diszkriminatív kommunista bűncselekményt.
- Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy én /Kimár Norbert/ szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha nem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon.
B; - Ezek amit a hatóságok/ orvosok törvénytelenül csinálnak ellenem Magyarországon:
1; -Az orvosok/hatóságok orvosilag akarnak kijavítani/ rákényszeríteni, hogy adjam fel hitetlenségemet a volt kommunizmusban. Szó szerint orvosilag akarnak meggyőzni hogy:
- a,- nem volt rossz a kommunizmusuk.
- b,- hagyjak fel a volt kommunisták és hozzátartozóik, stb. előítéletei elleni jogaimmal, habár én és családom a kommunista bűnök áldozata volt.
- c,- és azt is, hogy az erős zaklatás stb. bűncselekmények soha nem történtek ellenem, és ezért nem segítettek nekem a rendőrök.
2; -Vagy pedig az orvosok/ hatóságok, stb orvosilag próbálják elhallgattatni/ hitelteleníteni a gondolataimat, véleményeimet, stb, ahogy a kommunizmusban is csinálták. És az ex-kommunistáknak és hozzátartozóiknak van haszna belőle.
C; - Nem tudom megtenni amit akarnak mert nem hiszek a kommunizmusban, és mert:
1; - végleg elveszíteném a gondolat és véleményszabadság jogomat a demokráciában.
2; - már elvesztettem a védelmet:
- a,- az egészségügyben 2015 óta: -háziorvosok hamis orvosi jelentésekkel meghamisították az egészségügyi törzskartonomat és biztosításomat, - és a hatóságok elutasítják megállítani és törölni ezeket a hamis jelentéseket, - és az orvosok, a hatóságok elutasítják a "más származású"/ társadalmi származású jogaimat, és gondolat/ vélemény-jogaimat, amikor előítéletet akarok megakadályozni. (Kommunisták "egyéb származású"-nak is hívták a családokat mint az enyémet.)
- b,- és bűnmegelőzésben: ahogy a rendőrök, orvosok stb. bizonyították és mondták nekem, hogy nem érdekli őket a törvény ennél.
3; - Ezért nem tudok semmit se csinálni ami törvényes egészségvédelmet követel. Például; Nem tudok legálisan dolgozni. Az utazási jogaim korlátozottak. Magán egészségbiztosítók ügyvédei azt mondták hogy emiatt nem tudnak szerződést kötni velem.
D; - Hogyan kezdődött, mi történt:
1; - Ismeretlen személyek zaklattak, hergeltek telefonon, Interneten, stb, éveken keresztül, erősebben, és erősebben (rondább dolgok is történtek) és a rendőrség elutasított segíteni nekem.
2; - Meglátogattam a háziorvost hogy megújítsam a vezetői engedélyem 2015 szeptember 15-én. És mondtam neki hogy mi történik velem. A háziorvos pszichiátriai végzettség nélkül mondta hogy paranoiám van. Mondtam neki hogy csak független pszichiátriai vizsgálatot fogadok el ahol volt és jelen kommunisták, stb hozzátartozók nem lehetnek jelen, - azzal indokkal hogy a kommunista bűnök áldozatainak családjába születtem, és az apám megpróbálta kikapni a kommunista ügynökök neveit, de nem adták ki. - Azóta rájöttem hogy én is az áldozatuk vagyok, mert 1972-ben születtem a kommunizmus alatt, és például a kommunisták meg sem engedték a szüleimnek hogy megkereszteltessenek engem.
3; - Háziorvosok és más hatóságok is elutasították a jogaimat azzal az indokkal hogy: "-Már régen volt a kommunizmusban azaz elévültek", "-Ez is paranoia", "-Senkit sem érdekel az a "hülye" törvény". És nevettek a jogaimon.
E; - Véleményt nyilvánítok a jogaimért 2020 óta:
-De semmi sem változik, és 2021 nov.-ben a rendőrök elvittek és 3 éjszakát fogdán töltöttem, és az ítélet szabálysértés, garázdaság volt. Következő "rossz" véleménynyilvánítás 6-9 hónap lehet börtönben (3 csapás törvény). - Szánalmas rész az hogy nekem az áldozatnak kell félni a börtöntől a véleménynyilvánításon, és nem a bűnös hatóságoknak, provokátoroknak stb.
Tisztelettel; Kimár Norbert
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

1)
11-Jan-2023-Budapest.
I expressed my opinion (protest), again because of racist communist crime against my life.
And it made me feel good as always. That's why I came back from Malaysia, Thailand to fight for my rights and my life as I've been doing it.
-1, in Kossuth square next to Parliament,
-2, Russian Embassy to Hungary,
-3, FIDESZ government party’s headquarter.
-4, KDNP government party’s headquarter.

I placed duct-tape on my mouth, because in November-2021 the Kazincbarcika police lied me in their custody/ court that the Swedish Embassy reported me to the police also but Swedish did it earlier and they didn't want to punish me with police.
Everything went easily and fast in my protest, and luckily police at Russian Embassy remembered me from my earlier protests, and that always helped both of us.
I made photos and videos everywhere, I put them on facebook, twitter, youtube.
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And 2 weeks later I will do it again in my city too :)
*
- lol, a local news says there is a new police chef in my city, "Gábor Nagy". News talked about his interesting CV, he worked in the kind of counter intelligences police "National Protective Service" too. I hope the police web page gonna talk about the new police chief.
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2)
Interesting is I felt a bit bulled 1-2 days before the protest.
It was a kind of usual subliminal, I think they flashied the face of "my-friend" who accused me in Malaysia with "Are you Israeli Norbert?!!".
I wonder if there is an AI which generates this subliminal, ever since I even talked about this "friend" here in this forum too.
- Maybe my enemies tried to transform my feeling, because as I said I knew "my-friend" since years, and after what he did with me I decided to call him as a "(Borat) Yahudi-hunter" and it's working I laugh on him.
- And honestly if that cyber bull was to transform my feeling to be angry with him differently (forgetting the "(Borat) Yahudi-hunter"), then the "friend" too should know that.. Because there are moments when Malaysians were laughing on him, when he faced with the consequence of his stupidities.. So maybe they (commies) used him as a paper tissue.. He's not Malaysian and usually Malaysians have more IQ to foresee this kind of consequences.
- Or my enemies tried to over-advertise this "Are you Israeli Norbert?!!" hawkish stupidity into a pro-commie moral tuning to impress themselves..
Anyway this subliminal/ cyber bully didn't work out..
*********

And I just want to say;
Since years my pathetic enemies have been trying to bluff/ show that their ex-communist armies/ intelligences etc are powerful and brave..
Oh yeah.. The Hungarian pro-ex-KGB police, prosecutors, judge, doctors especially in my city would be confused if the Hungarian "anti-migrant" media would be talking about why Russians prefer to be "migrant-tourists" even in Asia instead of going back home to fight for their rights as I've been doing it since 2015-2016..
Well I can't forget when FIDESZ-KDNP, Orbán's etc authorities "advised" me to leave my country.. And now it turns out their propaganda army is running away cowardly.
And these commie authorities tried to show I'm the useless and coward..
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

1) lol,
What a surprise, the House of Terror Museum changed its banners, placards front of them. Now its about Hungarian Gypsies, and this Museum belongs to FIDESZ-KDNP govt.
Well my experience in my expressing opinions/ protests was that;
- 85% or more of Gypsies just simply said about my banners "it's true". And about 95% of Hungarians didn't understand our own human rights.
- And FIDESZ is known for targeting and getting closer and faking history, and then copying/ stealing/ using those successes and then using the targeted as a paper tissue just to destroy them as an "envy-winner" does.
****** 2) 13-January-2023
I sent email to Hungarian authorities, Russian Embassy/ Foreign Affairs, SVR, FSB.
I informed them about the date and place of my next "expressing opinion" (protest) in my city Kazincbarcika on 25-January-2023.
Címzett: -Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -Demetr Zoltán, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Semjén Zsolt
-Dr Kövér László; Országház Hivatala; -Terror Háza Múzeum, Schmidt Mária,
-Kiss Zsolt, Főigazgató, Nemzeti Egészségbiztosítási Alapkezelő (NEAK)
-Dr Müller Cecília, országos tisztifőorvos, Nemzeti Népegészségügyi Központ, (NNK)
-Dr Alakszai Zoltán, BAZ-Megyei Kormánymegbízott, -Dr Asztalos Ágnes, főosztályvezető, Népegészségügyi Főosztály,
-Dr Hudák Zita, Edelényi Járási Hiv., Dr Király Mária, Népegészségügyi Oszt.
-Dr Motkó Tamás, -Lászlóné Kovács Mária, -Szabó Ilona, -Dr Lencár Márta, -Dr Tímár József,
-Szitka Péter, Polgármester Kazincbarcika, -Weilandics Miklós Foglalkoztatási Oszt., Dr Agonás Lajos Béla Kbarcika Járási Hiv.
-Nagy Gábor Kazincbarcikai Rendőrkapitány, -Országos Rendőr Főkapitányság (ORFK),
-Városüzemeltetési és Rendészeti Osztály Kazincbarcika,
-Kazincbarcikai Járásbíróság, -Országos Bíróság Hivatal, stb Magyarországi Bíróságok
-Kazincbarcikai Járási Ügyészség, -Központi Nyomozó Főügyészség, -Legfőbb Ügyészség, -stb Magyarországi Ügyészség
-Dr Varga Judit Igazságügyi Miniszter, -Pintér Sándor Belügyminiszter, -Dr. Takács Péter egészségügyért felelős államtitkár
-Oroszország Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, Sztaniszlavov Evgenij Arnoldovics Nagykövet, -Oroszország Kormánya, -SVR, -FSB

Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg.jpg; 202 202
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 20220509ToJaHiKbTB.PDF; KimarN0907Kb.jpg
Tárgy: Kommunista rasszizmus elleni véleménynyilvánítás dátuma

Tisztelt Cím!
Ismételten a véleményemet kinyilvánítani szándékozom (egyedül) Kazincbarcikán. -Ez néhány perc lenne. -Egyedül és békésen akarok menni transzparensekkel és némán, ragasztószalaggal a számon (hogy bizonyítsam hogy némán csinálom ezt). -És videó felvételt és fényképeket akarok csinálni a teljes eseményről.
Ennek dátuma és helyszíne: 2023, január, 25,
Háziorvosi rendelő Gépész út 21.; -Háziorvosi rendelő, Május 1 út 2.; -Kazincbarcikai Járási Ügyészség, Fő tér 40,
Kazincbarcikai Járásbíróság Fő tér 41; -Polgármester Hivatal, Fő tér 4.; -Foglalkoztatási osztály, Tóth Árpád út 2.
Háziorvosi rendelő, Mikszáth Kálmán u. 6,; -Kazincbarcikai Rendőrkapitányság, Barátság tér 1-3.

Indoklás; Mert a hatóságok rasszista kommunista bűnei, korrupciói elnyomják az emberi jogaimat és veszélyeztetik az életemet Magyarországon 2015 óta. -És több alkalommal küldtem e-mailt a Terrorháza Múzeumnak amelyekben bizonyítékot akarok kapni a kommunista történelmi bűncselekményről, mivel a magyar hatóságok tagadják és paranoia jelének hívják ezek ismeretét is. A Múzeum sosem válaszolt idáig.
*
Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemet, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem.
- Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben. - Külföldi jogi segítség nélkül nem lehet megállítani ezt a rasszista diszkriminatív kommunista bűncselekményt.
*
- Név: Kimár Norbert, - Lakcím: Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
- Születési idő, hely, Állampolgárság: 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, január, 13
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert


*** Angolul, In English. ***

To: -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -Zoltán Demeter, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zsolt Semjén
-Dr László Kövér; Office of Parliament; -House of Terror Museum, Mária Schmidt,
-Zsolt Kiss, Director General, Tasks of the National Health Insurance Fund of Hungary (NEAK),
-Dr Cecília Müller, National Chief Medical Officer, National Public Health Center (NNK)
-Dr Zoltán Alaszkai, Govt Commissioner; BAZ County Govt Office, -Dr Ágnes Asztalos, National Public Health Department,
-Dr Zita Hudák, District Office of Edelény; Dr Mária Király, National Public Health Dept.
-Dr Tamás Motkó, -Lászlóné Kovács Mária, -Ilona Szabó, -Dr Márta Lencár, -Dr József Tímár,
-Péter Szitka, Mayor of Kazincbarcika, -Miklós Weilandics Employment Dept., Dr Lajos Béla Agonás District Office of Kbarcika
-Gábor Nagy police chief of Kazincbarcika, -National (Country) Police Headquarters (ORFK)
-Department of City Management and Law Enforcement Kazincbarcika,
-Kazincbarcika District Court, -National Office for Judiciary, etc Hungarian Courts
-Kazincbarcika District Prosecution Office, -Central Chief Prosecution Office of Investigation, -Supreme Prosecution Office, etc Hungarian Prosecution
-Dr Judit Varga Minister of Justice, -Sándor Pintér Minister of Interior, -Dr Péter Takács Secretary of State for Health
-Russian Embassy in Hungary, -Stanislavov Evgeniy Arnoldovich Ambassador, -Government of Russia, -SVR, -FSB

Attachment: KimarN_SzIg.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 20220509ToJaHiKbTB.PDF; KimarN0907Kb.jpg
Subject: Date of expressing opinion against communist racism

Dear Sir, Madam,
I repeatedly want to express my opinion (in solo) in Kazincbarcika (Hungary). -This would be a few minutes. -I want to walk alone and peacefully with my banners and mutely, with duct-tap on my mouth (to prove I'm doing it mutely). -And I want to make video recordings and photos about the entire event.
It's date and location: 25, January, 2023,
Family doctor surgery Gépész út 21.; -Family doctor surgery Május 1 út 2.; -Kazincbarcika District Prosecution Office, Fő tér 40,
Kazincbarcika District Court Fő tér 41; -Mayor Office, Fő tér 4.; -Employment Department, Tóth Árpád út 2.
Family doctor surgery, Mikszáth Kálmán u. 6,; -Kazincbarcika Police Station, Barátság tér 1-3

Reasoning; Because the authorities racist communist crimes, corruption has been oppressing my human rights and endangering my life in Hungary since 2015. -And I sent email many times to House of Terror Museum in what I want to get proof about communist historical crimes, because the Hungarian authorities deny and call sign of paranoia the knowledge of these too. The Museum never replied.
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Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I've never been on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor.
- I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution. - It's not possible to stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help.
*
- Name: Mr. Norbert Kimár, - Address: Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
- Birth place, date, Nationality; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
13, January, 2023. Hungary
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár
********* 3) https://kolorline.hu/hirek/kazincbarcik ... ezetojenek

And as I said there is a new police chief in my city "Gábor Nagy", and he has interesting work history;
- Scout of Counter Terrorism, - Regional head of department of National Protective Service [kind of counter intelligence inside police, etc] and in that area where I live.
- If this police doesn't belong to that "Hurka [Sausage] agent group" which is responsible in this racist commie agent crime against my life, then who else can be? And now I wonder about the rest of earlier police chiefs history..

- And I don't have to tell how I feel when I think about this special "police", and I really hope this web news will be published too in local paper news.
- And I wonder is this news really true?
- And how come my Internet dared to show me this article?
* Because most of authorities, civil servants photos etc are blocked/ censored on my Internet. The biggest joke was when "google" needed years to find the photo of Csaba Tündik police and found it only months after his death, and he was published in those years old news when I started to google about him.

* Honestly since the Ukraine war started my Internet started to show me a few interesting informations which belonged earlier to the "it doesn't exist" in my over censored Internet.
Maybe extra lobbies of FSB, SVR, etc had to retreat or were forced out from EU, and police like this "hurka-police-team" had no other choice just live with the new censor regulation. Maybe as it happened in West Europe between sanctioned Russian oligarchs and their Western partners/ friends.

I wonder about the countries this new police visits on holidays and its frequencies. Sadly social media doesn't say this informations (and not sure it'd be reliable information). But that's common with the authorities, they're brave in gang like bulls, but not on Internet, because they are also a bit individuals on there. That's a reason why gypsies are strong because they've the strong "from mouth to mouth" informations everywhere what people have in Asia.
*
- And do I feel any fear because the new police chief looks like so powerful and from hurka-team?
Nope, but he with this news about him reminds me to the story, when it turned out there was a new family doctor Dr Tamás Motkó and he was neurologist too. And the local ANTSZ (Health care security) woman told me "He's neurologist too" with her hope it will be a problem for me, and I said her something like this "it's not problem for me".
**
I think the first time when I realized how important is the information about persons was when police arrested me in November 2021 in my protest and then a police woman "interrogated" me (like a corrupt prosecutor or lawyer of the prosecution). But we knew each other from the elementary school (I think her name is Ágnes Szabó).
I knew her from school as a kind of active pro-communist student, and I wasn't surprised how she corruptly and really joyfully acted against me.. I guess that's the carelessly arrogance of the local police, instead of using an unknown police to confuse me (I believe because mind control doesn't hide everything)..

lol and from the article, the new police chief said: ".. must keep the so far achieved results"
Google translator:
".. the results achieved so far must be maintained"
in Hungarian
".. az eddig elért eredményeket mindenképpen meg kell tartani."

Does it worth what I'm doing?
Can you imagine about those people life who do nothing but naively hopping the corrupt authorities gonna change or God may will do that "activity" job what they should?

Edit: They arrested me in November 2021 in my protest and not "last year".
knorbert
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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1)
Another interesting thing about the out of blue false "Yahudi [Israeli] - Hunter Muslim" ex-friend.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise many people if Orbán/ FIDESZ lobbies somehow "make" moderate Muslims to be false "Yahudi-Hunter Muslim" just to cover the ex-KGB, commie crimes..
As even some news are stating that FSB (ex-KGB) has been using even antisemitism in east Europe to cover their racist commie agent crimes since decades.. And unusual strange things happened around me many times in Malaysia too, and even around some of those who helped me. Just as this ex-friend said me years ago "Who are your enemies Norbert?!", in an upset way like who became a targeted innocent.

- And my enemies in Hungary had almost benefit from this false "Yahudi-hunting" against me, meanwhile "coincidently" even my many years old banners and my emails are saying "without the help of Malaysia I'd be dead already and mostly Muslims helped me".
**

2)
And why doesn't FIDESZ-KDNP / Orbán racist commie gang want to stop this crime?

- Because they think they bribed/ blackmailed etc everybody and no physical threat what for example Gypsies do against them. So their strategy is to violate the peace of the victims of communist crimes.
- And they want to run it as a slicing strategy (silent terror what Kádár too used in Hungary) to make fear meanwhile they (with crocodile tears in their eyes) milk the victims.
And just need to follow the money: it disappears from victims' pockets, but FIDESZ-KDNP / Orbán commie gang get rich via money laundries.
**
- But my activism and foreign help etc slow these commie criminals and their friends in my area, and therefore they rather put their pro-ex-KGB terror crime on delay here. And that's why they corruptly keep trying to carry on, as even Orbán did with the Gypsies in Gyöngyöspata until the last moment.
- And the Russian war on Ukraine was a huge backfire for my enemies, as even Orbán said they invested everything on Russian/ Putin's business ideologies.

*** And another pathetic part of Orbán, Pintér/ FIDESZ-KDNP govt is many years ago they turned Ombudsman into a bagman organisation, and now they use "bluffing laugh on the arrested corrupt EU politicians" just to cover up their own same crimes against humans. Literally they prove that they don't want to change peacefully.
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

1)
The old trick of my enemies "Abuse to misuse" (turning the table with false flag).
25-January-2023, Protest/ expressing my opinion in Kazincbarcika.

Almost everything went okay in my protest, except 1 thing at the local District Court of Kazincbarcika. Yes it's next to the local Prosecution, where police corruptly arrested me in my protest in 2021 (and they deleted my protest videos including the arrest from my phone).

Their trick "Abuse (accuse with false flag) to misuse (to use wrongly)", which is here they wrongly use the Zionism, Jews, -Freemasons to create false enemy for victim (false flag), and then they would protect the wrongly accused (abused) enemy against their crime victim (me) like they were liberator heros.

So this is what happened;
- There were 2 people looking at me outside of court house when I was making selfy photos front of prosecution, (they even said "He's there") then they went into their building.
- And then later I went to make photos front of their court house also, and nobody was outside.
- Then a woman came on the street and looked my banners and then talked to me, but I said nothing because the duct tape on my mouth was part of my silent protest.
- Well I was recording my protests just to prove I'm doing it mutely/ silently, but my phone also recorded what she said me.
- She blamed my situation on the Jews, Freemasons, Zionists in a way which is not helping me.
- My phone was in the grass but she walked in the grass to look my banners and I rather picked up my phone before she could step on it, (last time a dog coincidently stepped on my phone at KDNP headquarter in Budapest).
- My phone stopped the record coincidently, maybe I did something or not (hard to tell) but then I started to recorded my protest again, - and in the end she said she knew my father as a good, nice person then she walked away.
- Well my enemies are named on my banners, as "racist communist authorities, agents, ex-KGB, etc", and not what she said. (Maybe she had just private life problem while I was there, or they somehow made her to talk to me.)
**
- Isn't it funny that in Malaysia a Muslim "friend" falsely and knowingly accused me to be "Israeli", he acted like a "Borat stile Yahudi Hunter". - And now a woman said me she "knew my father" and my (real) enemies are the Jews, Freemasons, Zionists..
** Difference is; being "Jew" in Islam country can be a legal issue, but in Hungary it's a legal issue to be "antisemitic".
**

lol
So what an unusual coincident is, when front of the responsible racist, corrupt, commie court a woman wrongly blames my persecuted situation on the "Jews, Freemasons, etc", meanwhile my banners are accusing the pro-ex-KGB, ex-AVH authorities, etc.
- They maybe naively hoped, I will upload that video and then they can report it for themselves.
- Or they maybe think I should report it to their racist system which said me "Nobody cares that "stupid" law"..
Well, what should I say them?
- Could your racist pro-ex-KGB system correct this woman? Because you're the guilty in this secret service crime and not the Jews, Freemasons, etc. For example some of USA Presidents were Jews, Freemasons too, but Putin isn't really that, and sure some lobbies would love to hear it if you were protecting even the USA presidents in this false flag.
And even Muslims in Malaysia proved me my enemies aren't the Jews, Freemasons, Zions, etc.. And my banners accuse you.
**** 2)
So it was a "trolling/ poisoning" my mutely expressed opinion.
- Next time there will be a paper on me or on my banners which says "My phone is video recording".
- And I will send emails to some accused places, to tell them sadly many Hungarians are still wrongly informed. And it's unbelievable, but so far many Gypsies looked on my banners in my protests and they said "It's true", like they've photo reading memory, - but many native Hungarians still believe in the false flag of ex-KGB propaganda.
- And I don't want to publish or upload onto Internet that trolled/ poisoned video, but I will make video from that email and then I upload that email to YouTube, instead of the poisoned/ trolled protest video..
**** 3)
My enemies are facing 2 critical problems;
- 1) They're unlawfully on Russian intelligence side against me in Hungary but there is Russian war on Ukraine, so they're even against NATO, and I prove it with my banners.
- 2) And there is the Eva Kaili EU human rights crime case, which is quiet similar to their corruptly covered human rights crime against me, but it's in Hungary and not in Qatar etc. (FIDESZ-KDNP is bluffing in this crime with showing innocent, happy face.)
******

And I tweeted a long comment last week, which questions and shows an interesting parallel between a news about an Afghan ex-intelligence who illegally crossed into USA for reason of asylum but he is in jail for that, - and about my cities new Police Chief..
- I also wonder who is replacing this new police chief in his earlier position?

My Tweet;
1/4
How come he doesn't deserve to be in jail? Ex-counter-terror intelligence tries to get asylum from his ally like that? His ID card protection as evidence is unprofessional. Their corrupt army collapsed fast but Afghan women went out to protest for their education rights?

2/4
I'm persecuted Hungarian and ex-KGB openly benefits from it (since 2015) because of corrupt Hungarian/EU intelligences. Authorities laughed on me and said me "Nobody cares that "stupid" law", "Leave the country" etc I've got "Go to USA" etc scam subliminal messages many times

3/4
I rather protest in Hungary alone; I inform others (including USA soldiers) since Ukraine; I question EU intelligences because of this treason instead to be in USA jail voluntary - Meanwhile corrupt intelligences with their families joy privilege life, easy money, USA travels

"4/4
My cities new Police Chief CV says; Counter terrorism; (kind of) Counter Intelligence of/ inside police; and there where I live. Sure he joys the same opportunities what many Afg intelligence had on both side. Asylum can be funny message for them"

- It's ridiculous the average USA, Canadian citizens (I guess soldiers also) know nothing about that danger the NATO/ EU member Hungarian Police, Prosecution, Court, Psychiatrist, Defence are provenly not independent from FSB, SVR. But I remember on a Hungarian USA marine veteran who said me in USA 25 years ago that "The communist agents/ AVH is still exist, because they just changed their name and only their AVH name doesn't exist anymore." ****
4)
lol,
- So they still don't want to stop their crime, but new tricks keep coming. Looks like they signed a contract with Russian intelligence and they can't say "No" to their Russian boss. As in Russian army or in "Wagner Group" they kill those from their own who argue or retreat. (Well Orbán PM retreated in Gyönygyöspata like that, he rejected the Gypsies rights until the deadline of court decision.)
**
- And if I would leave my country as my enemies want it from me, and then I would go for example to USA or Malaysia, then my enemies (AVH, ex-KGB, FSB, SVR, etc) could say "We won this in Hungary, he gave it up, left his own area for USA, Malaysia etc.."
- That could sound great only for pro-communist moral in the middle of Russian war on Ukraine.
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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1) 09-February-2023,
This is the 3rd time when I sent the following email to Defense Ministry of Hungary, NCIA (NATO Intelligence), etc to apply for job as a "reservist" or to get advise from them, all because so far they didn't reply to me.
-And it's unbelievable how high and far goes this racist communist /ex-KGB crime against my life.
For example every week there are news about Ukrainian citizens were being captured/ arrested for treason, spying or giving up Ukraine army's, etc positions, meanwhile pro-ex-KGB authorities can do illegally whatever they want inside EU..

- This time also the NCI Agency sent a robot reply right after I sent my email and it said that; "Please be assured that it will be given our full attention; however, we may not respond to it immediately.
Please expect our response within 3 working days."
- And also a robot reply came from the Hungarian Interior Ministry too, they will answer me or they forwarded my letter, etc..
I can't foretell what they will respond but my experience says that they will ignore it, because a misleading answer of a pro-ex-KGB Hungarian authority isn't a good reflection for NCI Agency either. But I don't know how careless can be NATO's intelligence, because Hungarian system is part of ex-KGB, and Russia is known as arrogantly careless, and NATO has been living carelessly with this since Hungary joined them long ago. But as I said this Russian war on Ukraine is already bad for my enemies and for their friends, etc too, and luckily Turkey already was different than Western Europe, literally NATO has 3 groups 1st USA & Canada, 2nd Turkey, 3rd Western & Eastern Europe and 3rd is the ultra pro-ex-KGB.
****

- I corrected the end of my email with adding this "but I was conscripted for 1 year,".
Though I'm not a military person now, but I was conscripted for 1 year, my citizenship is NATO member.
- And for some reason this "-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf" part of the "2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf" is always missing at the "Attachment:" when I try to copy it from my gmail emails.
****

my email is in Hungarian and in English:
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, február, 09

Címzett: -Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Demeter Zoltán,
-Dr Varga Judit Igazságügyi Miniszter, -Pintér Sándor Belügyminiszter, -Dr. Takács Péter egészségügyért felelős államtitkár
-Szalay-Bobrovniczky Kristóf Honvédelmi Miniszter, -Weilandics Miklós Foglalkoztatási Oszt.
-Jens Stoltenberg NATO Főtitkár, -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Hírszerző ügynökségei),

Tárgy: Mit tudnak tanácsolni nekem?
Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg.jpg; 20151115Consul.png; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf 20220513KimarNotthon.JPG; 20220509ToJaHiKbTB.PDF; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-

Tisztelt Cím!
Tudnának törvényesen alkalmazni például mint tartalékos katona, vagy megmondani hogyan kellene dolgoznom máshol az életben?
Mivel a magyar hatóságok rasszista (kommunista) bűnei elnyomják az emberi jogaimat 2015 óta.
Indoklás:
A; - Gondolatszabadság megsértési (átnevelés) kísérletnek vagyok áldozata, 2015-ben kezdődött és az ex-KGB-nek (FSB, SVR) Orosz kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért.
-Magyar Ombudsman (ENSZ) ezt mondta nekem 2015-ben: "Nem azt mondom, hogy Ön az első (áldozat) ilyen (rasszista diszkriminatív) üggyel mint az Öné, hanem hogy nekünk nincs ilyen ügyről jegyzőkönyvünk mint az Öné."
-Magyar hatóság, stb ezt mondták nekem; - Együttműködési hasznok, például: pénz segély, nyugdíj. Vagy; "Hagyja el az országot (emigrálj)"; "Senkit sem érdekel ez a "hülye" törvény"; "Gyámság kell".
-NATO tag Törökország segítőkész volt és figyelmeztetett engem az üldöztetés előtt (de naiv voltam). Tehát EU-n belül csinálják ezt.
-Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok, de mások is segítettek nekem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben. - Külföldi jogi segítség nélkül nem lehet megállítani ezt a rasszista diszkriminatív kommunista bűncselekményt.
- Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy én (Kimár Norbert) szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha nem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon.
B; - Ezek amit a hatóságok/ orvosok törvénytelenül csinálnak ellenem Magyarországon:
1; -Az orvosok/hatóságok orvosilag akarnak kijavítani/ rákényszeríteni, hogy adjam fel hitetlenségemet a volt kommunizmusban. Szó szerint orvosilag akarnak meggyőzni hogy:
- a,- nem volt rossz a kommunizmusuk.
- b,- hagyjak fel a volt kommunisták és hozzátartozóik, stb. előítéletei elleni jogaimmal, habár én és családom a kommunista bűnök áldozata volt.
- c,- és azt is, hogy az erős zaklatás stb. bűncselekmények soha nem történtek ellenem, és ezért nem segítettek nekem a rendőrök.
2; -Vagy pedig az orvosok/ hatóságok, stb orvosilag próbálják elhallgattatni/ hitelteleníteni a gondolataimat, véleményeimet, stb, ahogy a kommunizmusban is csinálták. És az ex-kommunistáknak és hozzátartozóiknak van haszna belőle.
C; - Nem tudom megtenni amit akarnak mert nem hiszek a kommunizmusban, és mert:
1; - végleg elveszíteném a gondolat és véleményszabadság jogomat a demokráciában.
2; - már elvesztettem a védelmet:
- a,- az egészségügyben 2015 óta: -háziorvosok hamis orvosi jelentésekkel meghamisították az egészségügyi törzskartonomat és biztosításomat, - és a hatóságok elutasítják megállítani és törölni ezeket a hamis jelentéseket, - és az orvosok, a hatóságok elutasítják a "más származású"/ társadalmi származású jogaimat, és gondolat/ vélemény-jogaimat, amikor előítéletet akarok megakadályozni. (Kommunisták "egyéb származású"-nak is hívták a családokat mint az enyémet.)
- b,- és bűnmegelőzésben: ahogy a rendőrök, orvosok stb. bizonyították és mondták nekem, hogy nem érdekli őket a törvény ennél.
3; - Ezért nem tudok semmit se csinálni ami törvényes egészségvédelmet követel. Például; Nem tudok legálisan dolgozni. Az utazási jogaim korlátozottak. Magán egészségbiztosítók ügyvédei azt mondták hogy emiatt nem tudnak szerződést kötni velem.
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Habár nem vagyok katonai személy most, de sorkatona voltam 1 évig, az állampolgárságom NATO tag, és tisztában vagyok vele hogy az EU civil titkosszolgálatai sokkal felelősebbek ezért a bűnért mint a NATO-é. És azt hiszem több mint szégyen a NATO hírszerző EU részének ilyen leveleket kapni, - és valószínűleg a segítőkész külföldi országoknak minden felelős titkosszolgálatot meg kell nézniük, amikor törvényesen úgy döntenek, hogy "figyelmeztetik" vagy "segítik" a külföldieket. - Malajzia azonnal segíteni kezdett engem 2015-ben, és a magyarok egy része meglepődik és boldogan hallgatja ezt a segítséget, nem úgy mint sok hatóság stb Magyarországon/ EU-ban.
Tisztelettel; Kimár Norbert


*** Angolul / In English ***

Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
09, February, 2023. Hungary,

To: -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zoltán Demeter,
-Dr Judit Varga Minister of Justice, -Sándor Pintér Minister of Interior, -Dr Péter Takács Secretary of State for Health
-Kristóf Szalay-Bobrovniczky Minister of Hungarian Defence, -Miklós Weilandics Employment Dept.
-Jens Stoltenberg Secretary General of NATO; -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Intelligence),

Subject: What can you advise me?
Attachment: KimarN_SzIg.jpg; 20151115Consul.png; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf 20220513KimarNotthon.JPG; 20220509ToJaHiKbTB.PDF; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-

Dear Sir, Madam,
Could you lawfully employ me for example as a reservist, or tell me how should I work elsewhere in this life?
Because Hungarian authorities' racist (communist) crimes have been oppressing my human rights since 2015.
Reasoning:
A; - I'm a victim of attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), it started in 2015 and ex-KGB (FSB, SVR) Russian communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And FIDESZ-KDNP govt too is responsible for that.
-Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said to me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) of this kind of (racial discrimination) case like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours".
-That's what Hungarian authorities, etc said to me; - Cooperation benefits, for example: money aid, pension. Or; "Leave the country (emigrate)"; "Nobody cares that "stupid" law."; "Need guardianship".
-NATO member Turkey was helpful and warned me before persecution started (but I was naive). So they do it inside EU.
-I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims, but others too helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution. - It's not possible to stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help.
- I swear and I state that I'm (Norbert Kimár) mentally healthy person and I've never been on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary.
B; - These are what authorities/ doctors do unlawfully against me in Hungary:
1; -Doctors/ authorities medically want to correct/ force me to give up my disbelief in the former communism. Literally they medically want to convince me that:
- a,- their communism was not bad.
- b,- to give up my rights against the prejudice of ex-communists, and their relatives, etc., though I and my family were victim of communist crimes.
- c,- and also that the strong harassment, etc crimes never happened against me, and therefore police didn't help me.
2; -Or doctors/ authorities, etc medically try to silence/ discredit my thoughts, opinions, etc, as they did it under communism too. And it benefits the ex-communists and their relatives.
C; - I cannot do what they want because I don't believe in communism, and because:
1; - I would lose permanently my rights in the freedom of thought and opinion in democracy.
2; - I already lost protection:
- a,- in health care in (since) 2015: -family doctors have falsified my health history and insurance with false medical reports, and authorities refuse to stop and delete these false reports. - and doctors, authorities reject my "other-descent"/ social origin rights, and my thought/ opinion rights, when I want to prevent prejudice. (Communists even called "other origin" families like mine.)
- b,- and in prevention of crime: as police, doctors etc proved and said to me that they don't care about laws in this.
3; - Therefore I cannot do anything which demands legal health protection. For example; I cannot work legally. My travel rights are limited. Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this.
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Though I'm not a military person now, but I was conscripted for 1 year, my citizenship is NATO member. And I'm aware that the EU civil secret services are more responsible for this crime than NATO's. And I believe it's more than a shame on the intelligence part of EU's NATO to receive letters like this, - and probably helpful foreign countries have to look at all responsible intelligences when they lawfully decide to "warn" or "help" foreigners. - Malaysia started to help me immediately in 2015, and some Hungarians are surprised and they are happy to hear this help, unlike many authorities, etc in Hungary/ EU.
Yours faithfully; Norbert Kimár
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2)
I've not yet wrote/ sent email to those whom a person wrongly accused while I mutely expressed my opinion front of the court house in my city. 1 of the reasons is because there was always something else to slow me down. And "coincidently" their new type of subliminal/ mind control is something like this; "relax", "You can't win this. It's over, etc", and also when they make me over excitedly glad for the same slowing down result (You won before the finish line, a scam of 1st make him excited to be winner, then he gonna lose control).
But I gonna send that email, otherwise my enemies would think it worked for them. And times like this I feel myself as a person who waists its time, meanwhile there are great opportunities against my enemies everywhere. ******

3)
The Russian war on Ukraine, and my story, and success of Gypsies in Hungary.
Communists are just proving that they only stop their crime if there is a radical physical force against them, otherwise they just laugh with saying "It's still working, and time is on our side". As even Finnish proved it in the Winter war against Stalin.
And that's why my enemies are still feel okay with their crime, because they see no radical force to stop them. But they desperately needed to make me change my protests with their illegal arrest, trial. And I'm sure 1 of their reason was because I provenly discovered their bluff in their security system. As I even could foretell the govt election result based on their bluff. But sure another reason of their illegal arrest, trial was because 3 months later ex-KGB (FSB, SVR, GRU, etc) started the war in Ukraine.
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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20-February-2023,
This is the 7th time when I sent my usual email to EU countries' civil and defence secret services, because so far they didn't reply, and as always only some robot reply came to say they received my email.

my questions:
Could EU's civil and military, defense secret services and EU's NATO part tell;
-What is your plan with the victims of communist crimes and their relatives in peace and war time?
-Whose duty is to stop this communist crime (re-education) and treason in EU?
-When does it mean "(blackmail style) recruiting" to EU's secret services?

and this is the email in English and Hungarian:
Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
20, February, 2023. Hungary,

To; Governments/ Ministries and Armies/ Defense leaders of EU's 27 countries.
Some countries don't have emails just "e-Contact Form", etc, therefore I sent this to them there.

Dear Sir, Madam,
Could EU's civil and military, defense secret services and EU's NATO part tell;
-What is your plan with the victims of communist crimes and their relatives in peace and war time?
-Whose duty is to stop this communist crime (re-education) and treason in EU?
-When does it mean "(blackmail style) recruiting" to EU's secret services?

Reasoning:
A; - I'm a victim of attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), it started in 2015 and ex-KGB (FSB, SVR) Russian communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And FIDESZ govt too is responsible for that.
-Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) of this kind of (racial discrimination) case like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours".
-That's what Hungarian authorities, etc said to me; - Cooperation benefits, for example: money aid, pension. Or; "Leave the country (emigrate)"; "Nobody cares that "stupid" law."; "Need guardianship".
-NATO member Turkey was helpful and warned me before persecution started (but I was naive). So they do it inside EU.
-I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims, but others too helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution. - It's not possible to stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help.
- I swear and I state that I'm /Norbert Kimár/ mentally healthy person and I've never been on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary.
B; - These are what authorities/ doctors do unlawfully against me in Hungary:
1; -Doctors/ authorities medically want to correct/ force me to give up my disbelief in the former communism. Literally they medically want to convince me that:
- a,- their communism was not bad.
- b,- to give up my rights against the prejudice of ex-communists, and their relatives, etc., though I and my family was victim of communist crimes.
- c,- and also that the strong harassment, etc crimes never happened against me, and therefore police didn't help me.
2; -Or doctors/ authorities, etc medically try to silence/ discredit my thoughts, opinions, etc, as they did it under communism too. And it benefits the ex-communists and their relatives.
C; - I cannot do what they want because I don't believe in communism, and because:
1; - I would lose permanently my rights in the freedom of thought and opinion in democracy.
2; - I already lost protection:
- a,- in health care in (since) 2015: -family doctors have falsified my health history and insurance with false medical reports, and authorities refuse to stop and delete these false reports. - and doctors, authorities reject my "other-descent"/ social origin rights, and my thought/ opinion rights, when I want to prevent prejudice. (Communists even called "other origin" families like mine.)
- b,- and in prevention of crime: as police, doctors etc proved and said to me that they don't care about laws in this.
3; - Therefore I cannot do anything which demands legal health protection. For example; I cannot work legally. My travel rights are limited. Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this.

D; - How it started, what happened:
1; - Unknown people harassed, bullied me stronger and stronger on phone, Internet, etc, for years (uglier things too happened) and police rejected to help me.
2; - I visited the family doctor to renew my driving licence on 15 September 2015. And I told her what have been happening to me. The family doctor without psychiatric qualification said that I'm paranoid. I told her I only accept independent psychiatric examination where former and present communists, etc relatives cannot be present, - for reason I was born in a family of victims of communist crimes, and my father tried to get out the communist agents' names, but they didn't give out. - Ever since I realized I'm too victim of them, because I was born in 1972 in communism, and for example communists didn't even let my parents to christen me.
3; - Family doctors and other authorities too rejected my rights for reason: "-It was long ago in communism therefore those expired", "-This is paranoia too", "-Nobody cares that "stupid" law". And they laughed on my rights.
E; - I've been expressing opinion for my rights since 2020:
-But nothing changes, and in Nov. 2021 police took me and I spent 3 nights in a cell, and judgment was pity offence, riot (szabálysértés, garázdaság). Next "wrong" expressing opinion can be 6-9 months in prison (3 strike law).- Pathetic part is that I the victim have to be scared from jail in expressing opinion, and not the guilty authorities, provocateurs etc.

Yours faithfully; Norbert Kimár


*** Magyarul / In Hungarian ***


Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, február, 20

Címzett; EU 27 ország Kormányainak/ Minisztériumainak és Katonai/ (Hon)védelmi vezetőknek.
Néhány országnak nincs e-mailje csak "e-Kapcsolatfelvételi űrlap", stb van, ezért ezt nekik oda küldöm.

Tisztelt Cím!
Meg tudná mondani az EU civil és katonai, (Hon)védelmi titkosszolgálatai és EU-nak NATO része;
-Mi az Önök terve a kommunista bűnök áldozataival és hozzátartozóival béke és háború idején?
-Kinek a kötelessége megállítani ezt a kommunista bűnt (átnevelés) és árulást EU-ban?
-Mikor jelent ez "(zsarolás stílusú) beszervezést" az EU titkosszolgálatainak?

Indoklás:
A; - Gondolatszabadság megsértési (átnevelés) kísérletnek vagyok áldozata, 2015-ben kezdődött és az ex-KGB-nek (FSB, SVR) Orosz kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ kormány is felelős ezért.
-Magyar Ombudsman (ENSZ) ezt mondta nekem 2015-ben: "Nem azt mondom, hogy Ön az első (áldozat) ilyen (rasszista diszkriminatív) üggyel mint az Öné, hanem hogy nekünk nincs ilyen ügyről jegyzőkönyvünk mint az Öné."
-Magyar hatóság, stb ezt mondták nekem; - Együttműködési hasznok, például: pénz segély, nyugdíj. Vagy; "Hagyja el az országot (emigrálj)"; "Senkit sem érdekel ez a "hülye" törvény"; "Gyámság kell".
-NATO tag Törökország segítőkész volt és figyelmeztetett engem az üldöztetés előtt (de naiv voltam). Tehát EU-n belül csinálják ezt.
-Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok, de mások is segítettek nekem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben. - Külföldi jogi segítség nélkül nem lehet megállítani ezt a rasszista diszkriminatív kommunista bűncselekményt.
- Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy én /Kimár Norbert/ szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha nem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon.
B; - Ezek amit a hatóságok/ orvosok törvénytelenül csinálnak ellenem Magyarországon:
1; -Az orvosok/hatóságok orvosilag akarnak kijavítani/ rákényszeríteni, hogy adjam fel hitetlenségemet a volt kommunizmusban. Szó szerint orvosilag akarnak meggyőzni hogy:
- a,- nem volt rossz a kommunizmusuk.
- b,- hagyjak fel a volt kommunisták és hozzátartozóik, stb. előítéletei elleni jogaimmal, habár én és családom a kommunista bűnök áldozata volt.
- c,- és azt is, hogy az erős zaklatás stb. bűncselekmények soha nem történtek ellenem, és ezért nem segítettek nekem a rendőrök.
2; -Vagy pedig az orvosok/ hatóságok, stb orvosilag próbálják elhallgattatni/ hitelteleníteni a gondolataimat, véleményeimet, stb, ahogy a kommunizmusban is csinálták. És az ex-kommunistáknak és hozzátartozóiknak van haszna belőle.
C; - Nem tudom megtenni amit akarnak mert nem hiszek a kommunizmusban, és mert:
1; - végleg elveszíteném a gondolat és véleményszabadság jogomat a demokráciában.
2; - már elvesztettem a védelmet:
- a,- az egészségügyben 2015 óta: -háziorvosok hamis orvosi jelentésekkel meghamisították az egészségügyi törzskartonomat és biztosításomat, - és a hatóságok elutasítják megállítani és törölni ezeket a hamis jelentéseket, - és az orvosok, a hatóságok elutasítják a "más származású"/ társadalmi származású jogaimat, és gondolat/ vélemény-jogaimat, amikor előítéletet akarok megakadályozni. (Kommunisták "egyéb származású"-nak is hívták a családokat mint az enyémet.)
- b,- és bűnmegelőzésben: ahogy a rendőrök, orvosok stb. bizonyították és mondták nekem, hogy nem érdekli őket a törvény ennél.
3; - Ezért nem tudok semmit se csinálni ami törvényes egészségvédelmet követel. Például; Nem tudok legálisan dolgozni. Az utazási jogaim korlátozottak. Magán egészségbiztosítók ügyvédei azt mondták hogy emiatt nem tudnak szerződést kötni velem.

D; - Hogyan kezdődött, mi történt:
1; - Ismeretlen személyek zaklattak, hergeltek telefonon, Interneten, stb, éveken keresztül, erősebben, és erősebben (rondább dolgok is történtek) és a rendőrség elutasított segíteni nekem.
2; - Meglátogattam a háziorvost hogy megújítsam a vezetői engedélyem 2015 szeptember 15-én. És mondtam neki hogy mi történik velem. A háziorvos pszichiátriai végzettség nélkül mondta hogy paranoiám van. Mondtam neki hogy csak független pszichiátriai vizsgálatot fogadok el ahol volt és jelen kommunisták, stb hozzátartozók nem lehetnek jelen, - azzal indokkal hogy a kommunista bűnök áldozatainak családjába születtem, és az apám megpróbálta kikapni a kommunista ügynökök neveit, de nem adták ki. - Azóta rájöttem hogy én is az áldozatuk vagyok, mert 1972-ben születtem a kommunizmus alatt, és például a kommunisták meg sem engedték a szüleimnek hogy megkereszteltessenek engem.
3; - Háziorvosok és más hatóságok is elutasították a jogaimat azzal az indokkal hogy: "-Már régen volt a kommunizmusban azaz elévültek", "-Ez is paranoia", "-Senkit sem érdekel az a "hülye" törvény". És nevettek a jogaimon.
E; - Véleményt nyilvánítok a jogaimért 2020 óta:
-De semmi sem változik, és 2021 nov.-ben a rendőrök elvittek és 3 éjszakát fogdán töltöttem, és az ítélet szabálysértés, garázdaság volt. Következő "rossz" véleménynyilvánítás 6-9 hónap lehet börtönben (3 csapás törvény). - Szánalmas rész az hogy nekem az áldozatnak kell félni a börtöntől a véleménynyilvánításon, és nem a bűnös hatóságoknak, provokátoroknak stb.

Tisztelettel; Kimár Norbert
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2)


I visited Istanbul, Turkey last week, I spent a week just to be outside of racist pro-ex-KGB Hungarian system.
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Needles to say, a subliminal message came before my travel "Next country will be USA (after Turkey)..".
lol, I'm back and only the usual "Deja vu USA" subliminal messages are coming, and next to it their usual drama news about "the USA asylum is over". It's a typical limbo scam of ex-KGB to keep up their moral.
And it's a reflection of my enemies, which proves that they're still weak in Turkey too.
*** And what can they say to foreign police, etc if something happens around me on abroad? "We know him, we corruptly arrested and convicted him for minor offence in 2021 front of our prosecution. The record exist at least until Nov 2023, and can be corruptly used against him. We did it to cover up our treason, ex-KGB human rights crimes a few months before the Russian special military operation (war on Ukraine) started. And now we wait and try to isolate him as a punk ex-KGB Hungarian dictatorship does it in desperate slicing politics, with hoping nobody gonna take steps to help his life outside of ex-KGB world and hopefully he won't act like gypsies act against us..".

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3)

lol,
Maybe human-rights organizations including courts, etc just simply don't want to record communist agent crimes in their history book, as Eva Kali acted in EU. They just rather act like everything is fine, nothing happened.. So maybe that's why none of ex-KGB crimes exist officially, but in some historian books, films and on people's mouth to mouth level what ex-KGB calls "rumors".
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And it's interesting how they control news on my Internet to waist my time with finding only completely useless informations. And to slow me down in informing others especially soldiers about ex-KGB spy dangers inside Hungary (next to Ukraine).
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