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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:31 pm
by notmartha
1 Corinthians 6:19 says, "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" Our bodies are to be instruments of righteousness, and we should therefore be careful of what we put in them, as to not corrupt His temple. One of the most common, but also most toxic chemicals pushed at us to ingest one way or another is sodium fluoride.

While you can read all you ever wanted to know about fluoride, its sources and dangers here, I’ll summarize some of the pertinent facts.

Dangers of Fluoride

Charles Perkins, a research chemist, in a 1954 letter, had this to say about the dangers of fluoride:
"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, "The Truth about Water Fluoridation", to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. In the 1930's Hitler and the German Nazis envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.

Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.

The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go to Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plans to communize the world.

I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great I.G. Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years' research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine --- any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically."
Here are some other tidbits:

1. Fluoride accumulates in the body, typically in the bones and pineal gland, as healthy adult kidneys excrete only 50 – 60% of the fluoride ingested daily.

2. Bottle-fed Babies have the highest exposure to fluoride, which is present in most formulas and bottled water. The kidneys of healthy babies only excrete about 20% of the fluoride ingested daily, leaving them at high risk for fluorosis later in life.

3. Fluoride increases the rate of infertility, by reducing testosterone levels in men.

4. Fluoride accumulates in the brain and alters mental behavior and studies show that long term fluoride ingestion can contribute to Alzheimer’s disease.

5. Studies show that there is an association between Fluoride exposure and lowered IQ.

6. Fluoride reduces melatonin production and leads to early puberty.

7. Fluoride is a halogen chemical that mimics iodide, which is needed for proper thyroid function. Our bodies therefore reject the good halogen when bombarded with the bad. This leads to hypothyroidism, with symptoms such as depression, fatigue, weight gain, muscle and joint pains, increased cholesterol levels, and heart disease.

8. Because fluoride accumulates in the bones, a fluoride-induced bone and joint disease called Skeletal fluorosis mimics the symptoms of arthritis.

9. Fluoride causes bone defects in children, as well as increased frequency of bone fractures.

10. Fluoride also increases the risk of hip fractures in the elderly.

Sources of Fluoride

Dental Products – Toothpaste, mouthwash
Processed Food and Beverages – most are made with fluoridated water
Baby formula
Pesticides – used for insect control especially on grapes,
Tea and tea drinks– especially high in fluoride and contributor to skeletal fluorosis
Mechanically deboned chicken (i.e. chicken nuggets)
Teflon – Teflon is made from fluorine, and leaches into whatever is cooked in it
Pharmaceuticals – everything from antihistamines to anti-depression drugs can be and often are fluorinated.

How Do You Avoid Fluoride?

Use only fluoride free toothpaste (see recipes below)
Eat fresh, organic foods
Drink and cook with well water or filtered and/or distilled water only
Stay away from bottled waters (unless specified as spring water) and all bottled drinks including soda, ice tea, and fruit juices. Buy concentrated organic juices (except grape) and mix with your own pure water.
Don’t cook with Teflon

Ok, Some Recipes

While I do occasionally buy fluoride-free toothpastes, they are hard to find and expensive. So here are some recipes we have used:

Tooth Powder – We put this in old glass spice jars for each member of the family, keeping cooties to a minimum and leaving some flexibility for flavors. You just wet your tooth brush and dip into powder.

½ cup baking soda
¼ teaspoon stevia (we use the pure powder kind, not with the added junk)
10-15 drops favorite essential oil – we use peppermint, cinnamon, citrus, rosemary (good for the gums), tea tree oil (just a drop or two for antibacterial properties), clove oil (good for sensitive teeth or gums), etc. Play with flavors and amounts to see what you like best.
*note – you can also add about 1 teaspoon of sea salt to the powder, for mild abrasion and antibacterial properties, and the minerals are supposed to be good for your teeth, but we thought it was <yuck>

Toothpaste – Children like to make this in a baggie so they can mush it with their fingers, and then just cut the corner of the baggie to dispense. Or just mix and keep it in a small container and dip brush into it.

2 tablespoons of coconut oil (you want this to be warmer than 75 degrees so it mixes easily)
3 tablespoons baking soda
1/8 teaspoon Stevia (again, we use the pure powder kind, not with the added junk)
8-10 drops favorite essential oil
*note - you'll want to brush with warm water as coconut oil gets hard when going under 75 degrees. Also, rinse your sink with warm water to avoid it being coated with solidified oil. If the toothpaste is too hard to dispense, just knead it in the baggie for a bit.

Re: Fluoride

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:42 pm
by Firestarter
Everybody “knows” that fluoride prevents cavities in our teeth…
Most people don’t know some of the more interesting facts on this highly toxic chemical waste.

Toxic waste - aluminium
Fluoride is a highly toxic chemical waste from the production of aluminium (and other metals). Several Americans sued the aluminium industry for their damages (health problems) caused by Fluoride. So they invented “practical” ways to get rid of Fluoride: rat poison, insecticide and Sarin gas.
The (German) Nazis had experimented with Fluoride in the concentration camps to discover that their slave labourers became docile and it can be used for sterilisation. These days Fluoride is also used in psychiatric drugs (that cause psychiatric problems).

In the 1950s it was discovered that Fluoride “prevents cavities in our teeth”. The research was really “independent”; financed by Aluminium Company of America (ALCOA), Aluminium Company of Canada, American Petroleum Institute, DuPont, Kaiser Aluminium, Reynolds Steel, US Steel and National Institute of Dental Research.
In 1952 a massive advertisement campaign was started, to dump Fluoride in the American tap water and tooth paste:

The Bush family is connected to ALCOA; see for example Paul O’Neil, who served as CEO for ALCOA before joining the George W. Bush administration:'Neill

In the 1950's, USAF Major George R. Jordan testified that the Soviets openly admitted to "using the fluoride in the water supplies in their concentration camps, to make the prisoners stupid, docile, and subservient".

The available studies show that in some people, fluoride exposure causes increases in blood glucose or impaired glucose tolerance and/or increases the severity of diabetes. Impaired glucose metabolism appears to be associated with serum or plasma fluoride concentrations of about 0.1 mg/L or greater in both animals and humans.
Diabetic individuals will often drink more water than the average, so will have a higher than normal fluoride intake (at least in the USA): ... -diabetes/

Fluoride increases blood glucose levels and impairs glucose tolerance, likely by inhibiting insulin production or secretion.
Impaired glucose tolerance, often a precursor to type 2 diabetes, has been found to occur in humans with fluoride intakes of only 0.07-0.4 mg/kg/day. Fluoride intake can therefore exacerbate diabetes.

Human and animal studies have found that excessive fluoride consumption leads to increased serum fluoride levels, with a concomitant increase in serum glucose levels.
If the body is not able to regulate the amount of glucose in the blood, as occurs in diabetes mellitus, chronic elevated blood sugar (hyperglycemia) can lead to serious complications.
This can cause damage to the kidneys, brain, nervous system, cardiovascular system, retina, legs and feet, etc.

Studies on both animals and humans have shown that after fluoride ingestion more insulin is secreted, which can result in hyperglycemia.
Fluoride may also lead to increased insulin resistance, or decreased insulin sensitivity, thus contributing to glucose intolerance:
(archived here:

In a “scientific” report published in 2016, Fluegge used mathematical models to analyse publicly available data on fluoride water levels and diabetes incidence and prevalence rates across 22 states between 2005 and 2010.
Two sets of regression analyses suggested that supplemental water fluoridation increases diabetes incidence.
Fluegge reported that a one milligram increase in average county fluoride levels predicted a 0.17% increase in age-adjusted diabetes prevalence: ... 132107.htm

Over 32 years, from 1980 to 2012, the number of adults diagnosed with diabetes in the US nearly quadrupled, from 5.5 million to 21.3 million. Among adults, about 1.7 million new cases of diabetes are diagnosed each year.
If this trend continues, as many as one third of the US population could have diabetes by 2050.

County-level data for the years 2005 and 2010 were collected, investigating if there is a correlation between diabetes incidence and fluoride in the drinking water.
Fluoride added to achieve “optimal” levels (between 0.7–1.2 ppm) was significantly associated with increases in both the incidence and prevalence of diabetes.

Adjusting for changes in physical inactivity, obesity, poverty, log population per square mile, mean number of years fluoridated and year, a 1 mg increase in the amount of added fluoride for an average county significantly increased the diabetes incidence by 0.23 per 1,000 as compared to a county without such an increase.
For added fluoride, a 1 ppm increase produced a 0.35 per 1,000 increase in diabetes incidence and a 0.27% increase in prevalence.

Among the 3 fluoridation chemicals used in this data set - sodium fluoride, fluorosilicic acid, or sodium fluorosilicate -, only sodium fluoride showed a significant and robust increase of diabetes.

The previous from K. Fluegge - Community water fluoridation predicts increase in age-adjusted incidence and prevalence of diabetes in 22 states from 2005 and 2010 (2016):
(archived here:

Alzheimer’s disease
In 1965, 3 independent studies were published that linked aluminium with Alzheimer’s disease. Subsequently numerous international studies have found more Alzheimer’s disease in areas with high aluminium levels in drinking water.
Normally metals from the body don’t reach the brain.

In 2013, Akinrinade and his colleagues from Bingham University in Nigeria showed that fluoride makes aluminium reach the brain. Fluoride combines with aluminium to form aluminium fluoride. In the body it eventually combines with oxygen to form aluminium oxide or alumina.
Aluminium oxide has been found in the brains of patients with Alzheimer’s disease: ... oridation/
(archived here:

US FDA didn’t approve fluoride because of toxicity
The FDA has never approved fluoride drops and tablets as either safe or effective, even though fluoride drugs have been prescribed for over 50 years. In 2016, the FDA announced that marketing fluoride drops and tablets for cavity prevention violates federal law.
On 13 January 2016, the FDA sent a warning letter to Kirkman Laboratories Inc., demanding the immediately cease of selling fluoride drops and tablets:
The above products also are “prescription drugs” as defined in section 503(b)(1)(A) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 353(b)(1)(A)], because, in light of their toxicity or potential for harmful effects, or the method of their use, or the collateral measures necessary for their use, they are not safe for use except under the supervision of a practitioner licensed by law to administer them.1 ... 483224.htm

Strangely, the 4 largest pharmacies in the US - Walgreens, CVS, Rite Aid, and Wal-Mart - continue to sell unapproved fluoride drugs, in violation of the federal prohibition on introducing unapproved drugs and the laws of at least 17 stated which prohibit the "sale" of any drug not approved by the FDA: ... water.aspx

Cognitive impairment and other side effects
The following literature review by Peckham an Awofeso is not so positive about the health effects of fluoride– “Water Fluoridation: A Critical Review of the Physiological Effects of Ingested Fluoride as a Public Health Intervention” (2014):
The United States' lead in instituting artificial water fluoridation led to its acceptance by the World Health Organization as an effective oral health intervention. At least 30 nations instituted artificial water fluoridation policies. However, a number of countries including Sweden, The Netherlands, Germany, and Switzerland stopped fluoridating their water supplies due to concerns about safety and effectiveness [8, 9]. Currently, only about 5% of the world's population—350 million people—(including 200 million Americans) consume artificially fluoridated water globally. Only eight countries—Malaysia, Australia, USA, New Zealand, Singapore, and Ireland, more than 50% of the water supply artificially fluoridate. Over the past two decades many communities in Canada, the USA, Australia, and New Zealand have stopped fluoridating their water supplies and in Israel the Minister for Health announced in April 2013 the end of mandatory water fluoridation. However, public health authorities continue to try and develop new community water fluoridation schemes.

The inability to control individual dose renders the notion of an “optimum concentration” obsolete. In the USA, a study in Iowa found that 90% of 3-month-olds consumed over their recommended upper limits, with some babies ingesting over 6 mg of fluoride daily, above what the Environmental Protection Agency and the WHO say is safe to avoid crippling skeletal fluorosis [41]. Most recently a study in the UK of fluoride levels found in tea concluded that “… fluoride concentrations can exceed the recommended DRI of 4 mg/day…, in certain tea commodities, under the minimal brewing time of 2 min…” [42, page 569]. This study used nonfluoridated water but supports earlier findings by Koblar et al. who report that the adequate intake of fluoride from a 70 kg adult consuming five cups of tea daily ranges from 25 to 210% depending upon tea brand and whether the water is fluoridated [43].

In a meta-analysis of 27 mostly China-based studies on fluoride and neurotoxicity, researchers from Harvard School of Public Health and China Medical University in Shenyang found strong indications that fluoride may adversely affect cognitive development in children [50]. All but one study suggested that high fluoride content in water may negatively affect cognitive development. The average loss in intelligence quotient (IQ) was reported as a standardized weighted mean difference of 0.45, which would be approximately equivalent to seven IQ points for commonly used IQ scores with a standard deviation of 15 [50]. While fluoride's effect on IQ in this meta-analysis did not reach statistical significance, the combined effect at population level is remarkable. A particular concern of the NRC committee was the impact of ingested fluoride on the thyroid gland [49]. In a 2005 study, it was found that 47% of children living in a New Delhi neighbourhood with average water fluoride level of 4.37 ppm have evidence of clinical hypothyroidism attributable to fluoride. They found borderline low FT3levels among all children exposed to fluoridated water [51].

There are 66 enzymes which are affected by fluoride ingestion, including P450 oxidases, as well the enzyme which facilitates the formation of flexible enamel [65]. A recent study of the effects of inorganic fluoride compounds on human cellular functions revealed that fluoride can interact with a wide range of enzyme-mediated cellular processes and genes modulated by fluoride including those related to the stress response, metabolic enzymes, the cell cycle, cell-cell communications, and signal transduction [66]. Due to high negativity of fluoride, it interacts actively with positively charged ions such as calcium and magnesium. In industrial settings, hydrofluoric acid poisoning is usually treated with intravenous calcium gluconate as such poisoning is associated with acute hypocalcaemia [67]. As with calcium, magnesium plays important roles in optimal bone and teeth formation. By competing with magnesium and calcium in teeth and bones, fluoride deranges the delicate bone formation and bone resorption processes. Such derangements, and consequent intensity of fluoride's adverse effects on bone and teeth, are amplified in malnutrition, calcium deficiency, and magnesium deficiency [68, 69]. Chronic fluoride ingestion is commonly associated with hyperkalaemia and consequent ventricular fibrillation [70].

Diet to prevent cavities
Fluoride advocates often claim that the reduction in tooth decay that has occurred since the 1950s is the result of the widespread use of fluoridated water.
Despite rejecting fluoridated water, tooth decay Europe has declined at a similar speed as in the US. Tooth decay rates in Europe are generally lower than in heavily fluoridated US:

A 1932 study shows that a “cereal-free diet rich in Vitamin D” can prevent caries in children (some “conspiracy theorists” even claim that this can reverse tooth decay).
Mellanby and Pattison – The Influence Of A Cereal-Free Diet Rich In Vitamin D And Calcium on Dental Caries In Children” (1932): ... 9-0001.pdf
In our first investigation on children we had observed that the diet containing most cereal, especially oatmeal, was associated with the greatest spread of caries. This observation seemed to receive support in some investigations of Boyd and Drain,1" who found that in- the teeth of forty-five diabetic children who were being fed on the standard diets used for the treatment of this disease, caries was arrested; later, in conjunction with Nelson," they fed thirteen non-diabetic children on a similar diet, and again found that any active caries present at the beginning of the investigation was arrested. The diabetic diet given was devoid of cereals and rich in vitamin D.

The purpose of this investigation was to test the effect of a cereal-free diet on the incidence and extension of dental caries in children, and to compare the results with those obtained in the third investigation the diet in each case was rich in vitamin D and calcium, but whereas in the present investigation it was devoid of cereals, in the third it contained a fair amount of these substances. A few children, receiving only the hospital diet, were used as controls, but the results are not given here they corroborate those obtained with the ordinary hospital diet in the earlier investigations.4

The mouth of each child was charted before the diet was introduced, the number of carious teeth, the amount and extent of each carious area, and the " degree " of hardness or softness noted.
The main results are summarized in Table III, and are compared with those obtained in the previous investigations. They indicate that a diet rich in vitamin D and calcium and devoid of cereals has greater inhibitory and curative effects on dental caries than any previously tested. Thus the new caries points observed to develop during the feeding period were only 0.05 per child as compared with the previous best result of 0.2 per child. The figure 0.05 is so small that it probably falls within the margin of error of this type of observation, and new caries may be considered, therefore, to have been suppressed. Only 0.32 teeth per child, as compared with the previous best figure of 0.8, showed an extension of the areas which were carious at the beginning of the investigation; this figure also probably comes within the margin of error. The average age of the children in the third and fourth investigations was under 6, while the average in the first and second was approximately 8 years. In order to make the figures more comparable, therefore, the results for the children of about 6 years in the first and second investigations -have been grouped together in Table IV, with the results of the later investigations. The hardening of carious areas, which indicates the diminution in activity of the carious process and ultimate arrest, was one of the characteristic changes brought about by the diets used. It will be observed that the removal of cereals from the diet also increased the amount of arrest of caries as compared with that produced by the diets containing this food. The average number of teeth per child in which some hardening of active carious areas was found was 4.7, as compared with 3.9 teeth per child, the best result previously obtained. It is doubtful whether better results are attainable in hypoplastic teeth on the basis of our present knowledge.

The tests do not indicate that in order to prevent dental caries children must live on a cereal-free diet, but in association with the results of the other investigations on animals and children they do indicate that the amount of cereal eaten should be reduced, particularly diring infancy and in the earlier years of life, and should be replaced by an increased consumption of milk, eggs, butter, potatoes, and other vegetables. They also indicate that-a sufficiency of vitamin D and calcium should be given from birth, and before birth, by supplying a suitable diet to the pregnant mother. The teeth of the children would be well formed and more resistant to dental caries instead of being hypoplastic and badly calcified, as were those in this investigation.

1. A group of children averaging 5 ½ years of age were given a cereal-free diet rich in vitamin D and calcium for a period of six months. The teeth of the children were defective in structure (hypoplastic), and much active dental caries was present at the beginning of the investigation.
2. Initiation and spread of caries were almost eliminated by these diets, and the results were better than those of the previous investigation in which-the vitamin D alone was increased in a diet containing bread and other cereals.
3. Active caries was arrested on this cereal-free diet to a greater extent than in the previous investigations, when cereals were extensively used.
I’m not sure what “hardening of carious areas” means though. This almost sounds like the tooth decay was “reversed” by a diet rich in vitamin D and Calcium and low in sugar…

Re: Fluoride

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:50 pm
by notmartha
Firestarter wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:42 pm
US FDA didn’t approve fluoride because of toxicity
The FDA has never approved fluoride drops and tablets as either safe or effective, even though fluoride drugs have been prescribed for over 50 years. In 2016, the FDA announced that marketing fluoride drops and tablets for cavity prevention violates federal law.
On 13 January 2016, the FDA sent a warning letter to Kirkman Laboratories Inc., demanding the immediately cease of selling fluoride drops and tablets: The above products also are “prescription drugs” as defined in section 503(b)(1)(A) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 353(b)(1)(A)], because, in light of their toxicity or potential for harmful effects, or the method of their use, or the collateral measures necessary for their use, they are not safe for use except under the supervision of a practitioner licensed by law to administer them.1 ... 483224.htm

Strangely, the 4 largest pharmacies in the US - Walgreens, CVS, Rite Aid, and Wal-Mart - continue to sell unapproved fluoride drugs, in violation of the federal prohibition on introducing unapproved drugs and the laws of at least 17 stated which prohibit the "sale" of any drug not approved by the FDA: ... water.aspx
Many are unaware that for many years children were given daily fluoride treatments in school. Kindergarteners who were considered too young to gargle and spit a fluoride rinse were given tablets to chew and swallow. This was often done without parent knowledge or permission. The following event, that was highly publicized in 2007, opened a few eyes. Until then, many parents were in denial that their children were even given the fluoride.

DeRuyter 5-year-olds get Ritalin by mistake

Source: The Post-Standard (Syracuse) | Staff writers
Posted on October 19th, 2007

Location: United States, New York ... y-mistake/

When teachers at DeRuyter Elementary told Amata Rounsaville that her kindergarten daughter was one of 15 pupils accidentally given Ritalin instead of a routine fluoride tablet Thursday morning, she hurried to the school to find out how such a mix-up could occur.

Both pills are small, but the fluoride was dark purple, smelled like grape candy and had a chunkier appearance than the gray, thin Ritalin pill.

“I’m definitely upset,” said the mother of four, who has two children enrolled in the district. “I’m not really sure how this happened.” According to elementary school principal Janice Ahlsen, the mix-up occurred after the DeRuyter school nurse confused two containers, giving kindergarten teacher Marcia Ludwig a bottle of the Ritalin pills prescribed for one student instead of fluoride tablets the district offers through a state dental health program.

The children, who take chewable fluoride supplements each day, complained of a bitter taste and were told by a substitute teaching assistant with a nursing background to spit the Ritalin out immediately, Ahlsen said.

“Kids are quick to let you know something doesn’t taste good,” she said, describing how staff quickly led the students to a classroom sink to spit and rinse.

Ahlsen said the school nurse, whom she would not name, had been looking for a substitute fluoride tablet for the class, because one kindergartner has a red-dye allergy and cannot take the pills the state sends. When different-looking pills showed up Thursday, the classroom teacher assumed a new tablet had been found, Ahlsen said.

Parents of all the kindergartners were notified about the accident, and the classroom was monitored by a nurse throughout the day to make sure students did not have adverse reactions, Ahlsen said.

“All of us are watching very closely,” she said. “We’re happy it turned out as well as it did, given the circumstances.”

But Rounsaville on Thursday removed both of her daughters from the district’s voluntary fluoride program because of the way the incident was handled.

“I felt the school downplayed it a little bit,” she said. “It bothers me that the children are the ones who noticed.”

Ritalin, a stimulant stronger than caffeine but weaker than amphetamines, is commonly prescribed for children who have Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The drug is intended to have a calming and “focusing” effect on children.

Dr. Tom Welch, chairman of the pediatrics department at University Hospital, said it is unlikely a single dose of Ritalin would harm the students. He said the reaction would be similar to a 5-year-old being given a strong dose of caffeine.

“There really isn’t any acute thing to worry about with the kids,” he said. “That’s a medicine where even an allergy to it is pretty unusual.” Rounsaville said her pediatrician had her take her daughter’s temperature as soon as the girl arrived home from school. She was told to watch for symptoms such as nausea, a rash, an elevated fever, restlessness or drowsiness. The girl was fine Thursday evening, her mother said.

Morrisville pharmacist Jennifer Caloia, who owns Dougherty’s Pharmacy, agreed the effects would be minimal.

“If it was just in the mouth for a couple seconds, I don’t see that it would cause any harm,” she said.

Fluoride supplements are common in rural areas of Madison County, where municipal water in villages doesn’t have fluoride added, and families in outlying areas rely on wells for water, said Geoff Snyder, the county’s director of environmental health.

The towns of Canastota, Chittenango, Sullivan and Lenox have had fluoridated water since 1976, but the city of Oneida and other municipalities south of the Route 5 corridor are without.

Caloia said fluoride supplements prevent cavities, help teeth grow during developmental stages and help bones grow strong.

As part of a state-subsidized program aimed at improving dental health, families in the DeRuyter schools can have the school administer fluoride supplements to their children every morning, Ahlsen said.

The state’s Self-Applied Fluoride and Education Rinsing Program has operated in New York more than 20 years, and now has more than 300 participating schools, according to Claudia Hutton, director of public affairs for the state health department.

Children 6 and older use a sodium fluoride solution to gargle and rinse for one minute each morning. But kindergartners, considered too young to rinse, instead chew a daily tablet with 0.5 mg of fluoride, which is delivered to districts in cases of 120-tablet bottles, Hutton said.

Hutton said the doses are supposed to be administered by a school nurse. Teachers could be allowed to do it if the district has a special protocol. “Kids are supposed to be watched chewing the tablet and told when to swallow,” she said. “You want to make sure they get it chewed up well enough so it won’t upset their stomachs.”

Ahlsen said she wasn’t aware of all the state regulations about administering fluoride tablets. She said the district is taking immediate steps — such as using a different color and size of bottle for the fluoride tablets, and storing them in a different location, “to make sure that nothing akin to this ever happens again.”

Fluoride – Magnesium deficiency, Cognitive impairment

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:04 pm
by Firestarter
Fluoride is a cause of magnesium deficiency. In our body, the negatively charged fluoride binds with positively charged magnesium, which causes magnesium deficiency.
Ironically fluoride deficiency is also bad for our health...

Fluoride can be fatal: for a 2-year-old 60 mg and for a 9-year-old 120 mg could kill.
A tube of commercial toothpaste contains about 143 mg fluoride: ... magnesium/

An estimated 80% of Americans are magnesium deficient.
Prescription drugs can also deplete your body of magnesium.
Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, headache, nausea, fatigue, and weakness.
Magnesium deficiency can cause amongst others: osteoporosis, heart attacks and diabetes.

Over the past 30 years, women have been told to take supplemental calcium to avoid osteoporosis, and calcium has been added to food. Osteoporosis rates have continued to climb.

You can’t simply add magnesium to your diet to solve problems, because when you take any of the following you need to take all the others into consideration as well: magnesium, calcium, vitamin D3, and vitamin K2.
If you're K2 or magnesium deficient, adding calcium will cause more problems than it solves. Taking mega doses of vitamin D supplements without sufficient amounts of K2 and magnesium can lead to vitamin D toxicity and magnesium deficiency symptoms.

If you have too much calcium and not enough magnesium, your muscles will tend to go into spasm. This could cause a heart attack: ... efits.aspx

A “scientific” report that was published in September 2017 shows that higher prenatal fluoride exposure was associated with lower scores on IQ tests in children from age 4 to 12.
In Mexico, where this study was conducted, fluoride isn’t added to water, but to table salt instead.
The US ADA concluded that:
the findings are not applicable to the U.S. The ADA continues to endorse fluoridation of public water as the most effective public health measure to prevent tooth decay.
In an earlier study it was found that children, surviving in areas where the population get fluoridated water, are more often sentenced to ADHD: ... osure.html

Here’s the full September report – M. Bashash et al “Prenatal Fluoride Exposure and Cognitive Outcomes in Children at 4 and 6–12 Years of Age in Mexico (2017):
(archived here:

A total of 299 mother–child pairs had data on either GCI (at 4 years old) or IQ (at 6 years or older), and 199 mother–child pairs had data on both GCI and IQ.
At age 4 year, neurocognitive outcomes (GCI) were measured using the McCarthy Scales of Children’s Abilities (MSCA).
For children 6–12 year old, the Wechsler Abbreviated Scale of Intelligence (WASI) was administered (IQ).
The children’s IQ wasn’t only compared to the prenatal fluoride exposure, but was also corrected for lead exposure, maternal IQ and the quality of the children’s individual home environments.

Figure 2, shows the (adjusted) correlation between urinary fluoride level (MUF) and General Cognitive Index (GCI) scores in children at age 4. You can see that averagely the children score lower with higher prenatal fluoride exposure.

Figure 3, shows the (adjusted) correlation between urinary fluoride level (MUF) and IQ at age 6–12. It looks like only fluoride levels higher than 1 mg/l prenatal are associated with a lower IQ.

Re: Fluoride

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:03 am
by editor
Oh my. One more reason to be grateful we homeschool.

Can you imagine, enrolling your child in a voluntary fluoride program, and then years later learning of the brain damage fluoride causes? Your first tendency might be to blame the school, or the State. But how about taking responsibility for yourself?

It's not as though all the information about fluoride hasn't been readily available for at least forty years. I knew about it when I was eighteen years old, and that was back in the seventies. I can remember an argument I had with my dentist around that age.

I can also remember at least once, when I was in gradeschool, and all the students undergoing a procedure in which fluoride was swabbed on our teeth.

It's things like that which make me wonder if I might have been smarter if I hadn't been poisoned as a youngster.

Firestarter: I'm happy to learn fluoride bonds with magnesium. While it means that fluoride can cause a magnesium deficiency, the obverse seems likely to be true: magnesium supplements would logically help chelate fluoride from the body.

I've been aware for years that calcium supplements are useless without magnesium. The supplement I take is two parts magnesium to one part calcium.

Re: Fluoride

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:00 pm
by Firestarter
Giving a population calcium that is magnesium deficient - is poisoning them...
This again proves that our medical industry is worse than quackery, as this is done intentionally.
editor wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:03 am
Firestarter: I'm happy to learn fluoride bonds with magnesium. While it means that fluoride can cause a magnesium deficiency, the obverse seems likely to be true: magnesium supplements would logically help chelate fluoride from the body.
I think it’s really that simple (I have to guess what "chelate" means, though). For example: magnesium and/or calcium can be used to treat “hydrofluoric acid poisoning”.

editor wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:03 am
I can also remember at least once, when I was in gradeschool, and all the students undergoing a procedure in which fluoride was swabbed on our teeth.
I was born In the Netherlands in 1974. We never had fluoride or pills in the classroom. I don’t know how it is in 2018 though…
You probably realise (and have possibly experienced) that children that refuse how we are treated, get harassed by the teachers, like children that aren’t vaccinated. And other children are encouraged to be hostile to “difficult” children.

editor wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:03 am
The supplement I take is two parts magnesium to one part calcium.
I don’t know which ratio is best.
I believe that the best way to get sufficient magnesium is not by an “artificial” supplement, but by your regular meals.
Since magnesium is part of chlorophyll, the green pigment in plants, green leafy vegetables are rich in magnesium.
Unrefined grains (whole grains) and nuts also have high magnesium content.
Meats and milk have an intermediate content of magnesium, while refined foods generally have the lowest.
Water is a variable source of intake; harder water usually has a higher concentration of magnesium salts (2).
Some foods that are relatively rich in magnesium are listed in Table 2, along with their magnesium content in milligrams (mg). For more information on the nutrient content of foods, search the USDA food composition database.

Teeth are alive, and it seems illogical that a toxic (like fluoride) would preserve them. Maybe the effect of fluoride is similar to a toxic like chloride in swimming pools, which keeps it looking clean and fresh…
It seems probable that fluoride on the long-term damages your teeth, but I haven’t been able to find an independent study; all (manipulated) studies confirm that fluoride is very good for teeth....
Ingesting fluoride for your teeth is ridiculous…
Another effect of fluoride is that it destroys enzymes and bacteria. This effect is probably also bad for your teeth.

It is known that osteoporosis (which is caused by ingesting fluoride) in turn causes teeth loss. So even if the fluoride prevents cavities, good teeth could still be lost because of fluoride.

In the United States more than 53 million people either have osteoporosis or are at high risk due to low bone mass.
Several studies have found, that when the jawbone is weakened by osteoporosis, this increases loose teeth and tooth loss. Women with osteoporosis have a 3 times higher chance to experience tooth loss (than those without the disease).
Osteoporosis can also cause periodontitis, although the relationship with skeletal bone density is not clear. Research has shown that magnesium deficiency leads to periodontitis (see below)…
Periodontitis is a chronic infection that affects the gums and bones that support the teeth. Teeth may eventually become loose, fall out, or have to be removed: ... ne-disease

Magnesium can counter and reduce the toxic effects of fluoride.
Calcium and magnesium are important structural components of teeth and bone. Fluoride binds with magnesium and calcium – this is bad for our teeth…
In a “scientific” study, subjects from 40 to 80 years old, with the highest calcium–to–magnesium ratio suffered greater tooth loss than those with a lower calcium–to–magnesium ratio.

In 1941, Time Magazine published an article about the “perfect teeth” and low incidence of bone fracture among residents of Deaf Smith County, Texas.
The water in Deaf Smith County had a magnesium content twice as high as that in Dallas County (where bone fracture and tooth decay were common). The water in Deaf Smith County also contained relatively much calcium and “natural” fluoride...
Adverse effects of fluoride, like weakening of bones and brown stains and tooth pitting on teeth, were also absent in Deaf Smith County:
Teeth just plain don't decay in Deaf Smith County, on the sandy plains of the Texas panhandle. (Elsewhere in the U.S. 95 out of 100 have dental caries.) This remarkable fact was reported last week to the Houston meeting of the American Dental Association by Dr. Edward Taylor, chief dentist of the Texas State Board of Health.

In 1961, Nature reported about a significant reduction in dental caries in 200 patients that were given an alkaline phosphate (= magnesium) for 3 years. Scientists in New Zealand discovered that magnesium was the beneficial factor.
They concluded that:
an important role can possibly be assigned to magnesium [phosphate] in the stabilization of chemical, physical and electrokinetic states of the surface enamel calcium.
In other words, calcium can only have a positive impact after it is stabilised, for example by magnesium.

Studies on guinea pigs and rats have confirmed the importance of magnesium:
When guinea pigs are fed a diet deficient in magnesium they grow slowly and, if they survive for a few months, they develop deposits of calcium phosphate in such organs as the kidneys, muscles, liver, stomach, and heart.
A high calcium level in the diet increases the magnesium requirement of guinea pigs just as has been observed by others who have studied the magnesium requirement of the rat.

When researchers at Loma Linda University in California substituted whole wheat with white flour in the food for rats, they found that more caries developed. Whole wheat flour contains 113 mg of magnesium per 100 grams, but white flour has only 25 mg.
There were 3.64 carious lesions per rat on the white flour diet, which also contained the high calcium foods cottage cheese and milk.
On the same diet, but with high magnesium whole wheat flour, there were only 1.16 carious lesions.

Lewis B. Barnett in September 1966 stated that supplementing our diet with magnesium would be a much better method than fluoride for tooth decay prevention.

Here’s the “short” story: ... ealth.html
Here’s the long version (which is part of a book on magnesium):

Re: Fluoride

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:57 pm
by Firestarter
You might wonder what the result is of fluoride and added calcium to food and drinks...

In England hospital operations to remove children's teeth have increased dramatically since 2012.
In 2012-13 - 36,833.
In 2013-14 - 39,175.
In 2014-15 – 40,970.
In 2015-16 - 40,800.
In 2016-17 - 42,911.

That’s an increase of 16.5% in 4 years.

Dental surgeon Claire Stevens, said it’s not uncommon to remove all 20 baby teeth from a 2-year-old because of decay.
She said she has also extracted a 14-year-old's permanent teeth, who then needed false teeth.

A Department of Health and Social Care spokeswoman said it is: “determined to reduce the number of children having teeth extracted because of tooth decay" and pointed to the sugar tax, which comes into effect in April on soft drinks with the most added sugar.
Sandra White, director of dental public health at Public Health England, said parents could reduce tooth decay through cutting back on sugary food and drink and brush teeth with fluoride, as well as regular trips to the dentist:

I thought that most people have been brushing their teeth with fluoride and been going to the dentist regularly for years...

Magnesium – prevents operative problems

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:51 pm
by Firestarter
Administering magnesium before and after surgery can help alleviate pain, decrease blood pressure, alleviate certain heart arrhythmias, prevents blood clotting, relieves depression, and improves energy and cognitive abilities.
Magnesium is safe and improves short-term post operative neurologic function after cardiac surgery.

While magnesium deficiency is fairly common, it’s frequently overlooked as a source of problems by surgeons.
Patients with low magnesium levels experienced a two-fold increase in heart attacks and all-cause mortality rate as long as one year after surgery compared to those with sufficient magnesium in their blood.
Postoperative incidence of hypomagnesaemia was as high as 89% (40 out of 45 patients) in a recent study on the causes of post surgical arterial spasm in Japan in 2005. When magnesium was administered during and after surgery, no further coronary artery spasm occurred.

Studies have shown between a 50% and 82.5% improved survival rate by doses of intravenous magnesium. Magnesium prevents so many (after) surgery medical complications that it can’t be defended to perform surgery without it: ... magnesium/
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Re: Fluoride

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 pm
by Firestarter
In June 2001, laboratory tests showed high levels of the toxic fluorinated chemical PFAS in a number of popular supermarket foods.
For some reason, these results weren´t widely reported...

PFOA and PFOS (the worst varieties of PFAS) were found in beef, pork, chicken, milk, green beans, eggs, apples and bread in 6 cities in Alabama, Florida, Georgia and Tennessee.
PFOA was found in 4 of 18 samples of milk, and PFOS or PFOA in 3 of 18 samples of ground beef. The levels ranged from 500 to 14,700 parts per trillion (ppt).
These chemicals have been linked to cancer and weakened childhood immunity.

These tests were commissioned by 3M, the chemical company that first manufactured PFOS and PFOA.
In 2018, 3M settled a lawsuit, brought by the state of Minnesota that showed it had known for decades about the health hazards of PFAS but hid that information from the public, for $850 million.

Recent tests by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) again found PFAS in meat, seafood, dairy products, sweet potatoes, pineapples, leafy greens and chocolate cake with icing.
These tests found PFOS in nearly half the samples of meat and seafood, with levels between 134 and 865 ppt.
For some reason, these results were kept secret by the FDA...

EWG Senior Scientist David Andrews said:
PFAS chemicals have contaminated the drinking water for at least 19 million Americans but we know that food is one of the main pathways of exposure. The FDA needs to come clean and tell us the full extent of PFAS contamination in the American food supply and how long it’s been going on. More importantly, the agency must take immediate action to protect public health from these hazardous compounds. ... -years-ago
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After analyzing 98% of GP practices in England, a study found that rates of hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) were 30% more likely in areas that fluoridated their water.

This equated to approximately 15,000 needlessly suffering from the ailment.
Hypothyroidism can lead to depression, weight gain, fatigue, aching muscles, and weakness.

Professor Stephen Peckham of the CHSS said that because the research was “observational”, it can’t be definitely concluded that fluoridated water causes hypothyroidism: ... ssed-sick/

Following are excerpts from the scientific looking report on the adverse effects of fluoride in drinking water.
Findings We found that higher levels of fluoride in drinking water provide a useful contribution for predicting prevalence of hypothyroidism. We found that practices located in the West Midlands (a wholly fluoridated area) are nearly twice as likely to report high hypothyroidism prevalence in comparison to Greater Manchester (non-fluoridated area).
In most countries, estimates of the prevalence of hypothyroidism depend on small-scale epidemiological studies. Between 4% and 5% of the US population may be affected by deranged thyroid function, making it among the most prevalent of endocrine diseases. 3 In the UK, accurate measurement of the prevalence of hypothyroidism is possible as data on thyroid function for patients diagnosed with hypothyroidism have been collected by primary care physicians (GPs) since April 2004 as part of the national QOF system.7 In 2007/2008, the prevalence in the UK was 2.8% and this increased to 3.2% by 2012/2013.
All covariates were significant predictors of practice level hypothyroidism prevalence (table 2). After adjusting for the effects of the other covariates, the model predicts that the odds of a practice recording high levels of hypothyroidism is 1.4 times higher in areas with maximum fluoride of >0.3 and ≤0.7 mg/L and 1.6 times higher in areas with maximum fluoride in excess of 0.7 mg/L, than it is for practices in areas with maximum fluoride ≤0.3 mg/L. For every additional 1% of women or 1% of people aged 40 and over registered, the odds of a practice recording a high level of hypothyroidism increases by multiples of 1.2, and the odds of a practice reporting high levels of hypothyroidism is 1.7 times higher where the IMD is ‘medium’ or ‘high’.
The analysis does not take into account sources of fluoride ingestion other than that in drinking water. Fluoride is found in many dental products and food and drink.3 8 9 13 14
The clear association found in our analyses between fluoride levels in drinking water and variations in hypothyroidism prevalence appears to confirm findings in earlier studies that ingestion of fluoride affects thyroid function.

S Peckham, D Lowery, S Spencer – Are fluoride levels in drinking water associated with hypothyroidism prevalence in England? (2015): ... search.pdf
(archived here: ... search.pdf)