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Re: ethic problem by psychiatric examination

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I want to post this here too for those who have not enough time to read the longer topic. because this can be useful ** 1 ** I googled "military medical exercise in Hungary" and it showed me these two;
a)
This story connects to the NATO’s largest series of military medical exercises in Hungary This article says the Hungarian police too were on the NATO’s largest series of military medical exercises in Hungary.
"Police are on military exercise (in Hungarian Rendőrök a NATO hadgyakorlaton)" https://www.police.hu/index.php/hu/hire ... yakorlaton
https ://www. police. hu/index.php/hu/hirek-es-informaciok/legfrissebb-hireink/szervezeti-hirek/rendorok-a-nato-hadgyakorlaton
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b)
And also this is interesting the Internet gave me this when I searched about NATO medical military exercise in Hungary;
NATO Centre of Excellence for Military Medicine (NATO MILMED COE)
https://www.coemed.org/about-us#what_is ... milmed_coe?
https ://www. coemed. org/about-us#what_is_the_nato_milmed_coe?
The NATO Centre of Excellence for Military Medicine (NATO MILMED COE) is a multinational military organization working for and accredited by NATO. We assist the Alliance in its goal of continuous transformation in the medical field. The COE is also the Department Head for the NATO Medical Support (Med Sup) Discipline.
The Force Health Protection Branch is located in Munich, Germany, the rest of the Branches and supporting elements are located in Budapest, Hungary. It's web page said they aren't part of NATO but they work for NATO, for me it looks like a kind of under group like the "Hungary Helps Program" (but that is "religious" and civil and not military, but it works next to some NATO missions). (Interesting is once I went to Munich Caritas around 2018 to ask help but Caritas just ran victim blaming on me, and bulled me to go away..)
Anyway EU-NATO's recklessly corrupt counter intelligences just let me connect them, and I think this fit perfectly here;
"My conclusion with the Russian embassy was this in 2021; "- The West, especially the EU, introduced new laws, services to prevent/ solve problems like this after the cold war, and they got a lot of money for that. And if they can't solve it in Hungary then they should have lured me into another country to live there before I realize this"."
- Well corrupt part of NATO doesn't believe in losing any war because they are still big enough to survive and to fight a new war elsewhere. And interestingly Hungary has been giving medical training to Ukrainian army while Hungarian govt and its propaganda is talking like a pro-Russia good cop.

Director, NATO Centre of Excellence for Military Medicine is Colonel Dr. Fazekas László. He is a Hungarian, and his CV says 1984 –1991 Education as military physician at Kirov Military Medical Academy in Saint Petersburg, Russia. And he served in Afghanistan when West / NATO was there in the last Afghan war..
- Well I believe I should contact them and ask some questions from them too.
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I sent this email to EU / NATO countries and to NATO, and I forwarded it to NATO Military Medicine Centre Of Excellence (NATO MILMED COE, in Hungarian NATO Katona-egészségügyi Kiválósági Központ,). And I sent it to NATO's media with using their contact form "Questions from the general public".
Subject; "Questions about corruption / Kérdések korrupcióról"

These are what I asked in the email;
1, How happens the employment of Hungarian ex-communists and their families at NATO/EU? And who stand up for them?
Because for example, when I tried to use my rights to prevent the ex-communists and their families bias/prejudice as a victim of ex-communists crimes then the family doctors and other authorities too rejected my rights for reason "Nobody cares that "stupid" law". - And the family doctors falsified my health documents and insurance with false medical reports, and the authorities refuse to stop this crime.
- And I saw an Al Jazeera documentary where the Taliban and a person from the previous regime had no problem to tell how the Taliban employed him after Taliban won the war, and they didn't say "Nobody cares that "stupid" law". Title "Exclusive access inside the Taliban's palace | Witness Documentary". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP6SnlLlMU8, time 15:52

2, Why didn't NATO stop this human rights crime, when it used Hungary for military medical exercise?
"NATO’s largest series of military medical exercises took place in Bakonykúti Training Area, Hungary. It included 1600 military medical experts, from 27 Allies and a number of partner nations". While the Hungarian health is persecuting me on a racist political way.

3, What if there is a war between Russia and NATO/EU and mass graves of genocide are discovered?
- and all or most of the dead were victims of ex-communist crimes, and their relatives and supporters. - And EU/NATO investigations point to Russians and to its allies, but they say EU/NATO did corrupt investigations. - And Russians and their allies try to use my fight for my human rights to prove how the corrupt part of EU/NATO has been falsifying everything to hide their own human rights crimes. - A fact, for example the Russian embassy voluntarily talked with me to prove their innocence, in 2020 at my first expressing opinion in front of them, while EU/NATO doesn't want to end this persecution against me. - My conclusion with the Russian embassy was this in 2021; "- The West, especially the EU, introduced new laws, services to prevent/ solve problems like this after the cold war, and they got a lot of money for that. And if they can't solve it in Hungary then they should have lured me into another country to live there before I realize this".
This is the email;
Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
23, 08, 2024. Hungary,
To; -Governments, Ministries, and Defences /Armies, Secret services of NATO and EU countries, -PESCO (Some countries don't have email just "e-Contact Form", etc, therefore I sent this to them there, and/or to their embassies.)
-Viktor Orbán Prime Minister, FIDESZ-KDNP political parties, -Hungary Helps Program, Azbej Tristan, Péter Kovács
Attachment; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg, 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf, 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf
2024TBTaxAid.pdf, 20151115Consul.png, 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf
Subject; Questions about corruption

Dear Sir, Madam,
I'd like to ask the following, because the authorities racist communist crimes, corruption have been oppressing my human rights and endangering my life in Hungary since 2015. -But the facts are showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the EU, NATO, and or representing those. And the FIDESZ-KDNP government too is responsible for that. More information about this persecution can be found in these attachments 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf.

1, How happens the employment of Hungarian ex-communists and their families at NATO/EU? And who stand up for them?
Because for example, when I tried to use my rights to prevent the ex-communists and their families bias/prejudice as a victim of ex-communists crimes then the family doctors and other authorities too rejected my rights for reason "Nobody cares that "stupid" law". - And the family doctors falsified my health documents and insurance with false medical reports, and the authorities refuse to stop this crime.
- And I saw an Al Jazeera documentary where the Taliban and a person from the previous regime had no problem to tell how the Taliban employed him after Taliban won the war, and they didn't say "Nobody cares that "stupid" law". Title "Exclusive access inside the Taliban's palace | Witness Documentary". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP6SnlLlMU8, time 15:52

2, Why didn't NATO stop this human rights crime, when it used Hungary for military medical exercise?
"NATO’s largest series of military medical exercises took place in Bakonykúti Training Area, Hungary. It included 1600 military medical experts, from 27 Allies and a number of partner nations". While the Hungarian health is persecuting me on a racist political way.

3, What if there is a war between Russia and NATO/EU and mass graves of genocide are discovered?
- and all or most of the dead were victims of ex-communist crimes, and their relatives and supporters. - And EU/NATO investigations point to Russians and to its allies, but they say EU/NATO did corrupt investigations. - And Russians and their allies try to use my fight for my human rights to prove how the corrupt part of EU/NATO has been falsifying everything to hide their own human rights crimes. - A fact, for example the Russian embassy voluntarily talked with me to prove their innocence, in 2020 at my first expressing opinion in front of them, while EU/NATO doesn't want to end this persecution against me. - My conclusion with the Russian embassy was this in 2021; "- The West, especially the EU, introduced new laws, services to prevent/ solve problems like this after the cold war, and they got a lot of money for that. And if they can't solve it in Hungary then they should have lured me into another country to live there before I realize this".
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Note: I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without help of people I met in Malaysia, most were Muslims, and God proved that their help forced the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution, and not the Malaysian politicians etc because they're corrupt. - Well these are what we can experience when the carelessly corrupt parts of EU, NATO secret services are recycling the ex-KGB's Hungarian part.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár


*** in Hungarian / Magyarul ***

Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2024, 08, 23
Címzett; -NATO és EU országok; Kormányai, Minisztériumai, Honvédelmei / Hadseregei, és Titkosszolgálatai, -PESCO, (Néhány országnak nincs e-mailje csak "e-Kapcsolatfelvételi űrlap", stb van, ezért ezt nekik oda küldöm, és/vagy a nagykövetségeiknek.)
-Orbán Viktor Miniszterelnöke, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai pártok, -Hungary Helps Program, Azbej Tristan, Kovács Péter
Csatolás; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg, 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf, 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf
2024TBTaxAid.pdf, 20151115Consul.png, 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf
Tárgy: Kérdések korrupcióról

Tisztelt Cím!
A következőket szeretném kérdezni, mert a hatóságok rasszista kommunista bűnei, korrupciói elnyomják az emberi jogaimat és veszélyeztetik az életemet Magyarországon 2015 óta. -De a tények azt mutatják, hogy ezt az üldöztetést azok a (ex)kommunista ügynökök (és családjaik, stb) csinálják, akik most az EU-nak, NATO-nak dolgoznak, és vagy képviselik azokat. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért. További információk erről az üldözésről a csatolásokban találhatók 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf.

1, Hogyan történik a magyar ex-kommunisták és családjaik foglalkoztatása a NATO/EU-nál? És kik állnak ki értük?
Mert például amikor megpróbáltam élni az ex-kommunisták és családjaik elfogultságai/előítéletei elleni jogaimmal, mint ex-kommunista bűncselekmények áldozata, akkor a háziorvosok és más hatóságok is elutasították a jogaimat azzal az indokkal hogy "Senkit sem érdekel az a "hülye" törvény". - És a Háziorvosok meghamisították az egészségügyi dokumentumaimat és biztosításomat hamis orvosi jelentésekkel, és a hatóságok megtagadják megállítani ezt a bűnt.
- És láttam egy Al jazeera dokumentumfilmet, ahol a táliboknak és az előző rezsimből származó személynek nem volt gond elmondani, hogyan alkalmazták őt a tálibok miután a tálibok megnyerték a háborút, és ők nem mondták hogy "Senkit sem érdekel az a "hülye" törvény". Cím "Exclusive access inside the Taliban's palace | Witness Documentary" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP6SnlLlMU8, idő 15:52

2, Miért nem állította meg NATO ezt az emberi jogi bűnt, amikor katonai orvosi gyakorlatra használta Magyarországot?
"NATO legnagyobb hadiorvosi gyakorlatsorozata volt Magyarországon, a Bakonykúti Gyakorlati Körzetben. 1600 katonai egészségügyi szakértő vett részt benne, 27 szövetségestől és számos partnerországtól". Mialatt a magyar egészségügy rasszista politikai módon üldöz engem.

3. Mi van, ha háború van Oroszország és a NATO/EU között, és népirtás tömegsírjait fedezik fel?
- és a halottak mindegyike vagy nagy része ex-kommunista bűnök áldozatai voltak, és a hozzátartozóik és támogatóik. - És EU/NATO nyomozások pedig az oroszokra és szövetségeseire mutatnak, de ők azt mondják, hogy a EU/NATO korrupt vizsgálatokat végzett. - És az oroszok és szövetségeseik pedig megpróbálják felhasználni az emberi jogaimért folytatott küzdelmemet annak bizonyítására, hogy EU/NATO korrupt része mindent meghamisított, hogy elrejtsék a saját emberi jogi bűncselekményeiket. - Tény, például az orosz nagykövetség önként beszélt velem, hogy bizonyítsák ártatlanságukat, 2020-ban az első véleménynyilvánításomon előttük, mialatt EU/NATO nem akar véget vetni ennek az ellenem irányuló üldözésnek. - Az Orosz Nagykövetséggel ez volt következtetésem 2021-ben; „- A Nyugat, különösen az EU új törvényeket, szolgáltatásokat vezetett be az ehhez hasonló problémák megelőzésére/ megoldására a hidegháború után, és sok pénzt kaptak ezért. És ha nem tudják megoldani ezt Magyarországon, akkor el kellett volna csábítaniuk egy másik országba, hogy ott éljek, mielőtt rájönnék erre".
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Megjegyzés: Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék a Malajziában megismert emberek segítsége nélkül, a legtöbb muszlim volt, és isten bebizonyította, hogy segítségük arra kényszerítette a magyar rendszert, hogy kicsit vissza lépjen az üldözésben, és nem a malajziai politikusok stb mert ők korruptak. - Nos ezek amiket tapasztalhatunk, amikor EU, NATO titkosszolgálatok hanyagul korrupt részei újrahasznosítják az ex-KGB magyar részét.
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Re: ethic problem by psychiatric examination

Post by knorbert »

I want to post the followings here too for those who have not enough time to read my longer topic, because this was very interesting, and can be useful.

A - Sept -25-2024, I expressed my opinion (1 person protest) in front of twelve embassies. The Italian, Croatian, and North Macedonia embassies were racist, corrupt just to prevevent me, and the Romanian embassy talked with me and then the Hungarian police system acted seriously corruptly.
B - Oct 16, 2024 I reported that to EU-NATO countries, and to NATO.
C - Oct 24, 2024 I forwarded that to Russia and Iran.

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**** A ****
September-25-2024, Budapest. I expressed my opinion (protest)


** 1 **
On September-25-2024, Budapest. I expressed my opinion (protest) because of the racist communist crime against my life.
Honestly at night at home I decided to do everything without talking to any embassy same way as I do it in my city, and I wanted to start the day at Romanian embassy, but a person was outside there and politely asked me to come back at 9:30, so everything happened differently after that, but it was very interesting.
* 1 -Italian Embassy, This was maybe the worst embassy.
- So I pushed the gate-phone and I said what I want but a man said me "No", and then he came out, he looked like an Italian police and we talked in English. He said me to do it at their neighbour (at Iranian embassy) he talked in the usual Italian way (bit loud and angry), and he said he will call the police if I try to express my opinion. And then a civil dressed man came out, he talked in Hungarian and he said I cannot take pictures. I said them to "call the police", or maybe I asked "when will the police come", and the Italian police laughed and said he won't call the police.
And the argument was going on and the civil dressed man said "Aren't you the one the bolond?" (bolond means crazy, fool, stupid) ("Nem maga az a bolond?"), and he was smiling/laughing. Well that was it for me, sure he was cornered had to say that to attack me stronger, anyway I went straight with my target for my rights.
- They even said me I can't express my opinion there because they asked it politely, just as the corrupt FIDESZ works, and I love the "Bandits" film part when a bank director's wife said to the bandits "Good manner is no excuse for criminal behaviour"..

They said me this;
Excuse me, we asked you politely (don't express opinion in front of us)

In Hungarian;
Bocsánat mi megkértük udvariasan (hogy ne csináljon vélemény nyilvánítást előttünk).


And I answered this
You're asking me politely to forget my human rights, and this is crime.

In Hungarian;
Maguk megkérnek engem udvariasan hogy felejtsem el az emberi jogaimat, és ez bűncselekmény.
And I also said them;
I can 't work, I can't eat.
And you want war against Iranians, everybody while that person's rights is trampled in the mud who were on your side under the oppression of communism during the Cold War. Shame on you.

In Hungarian
Nem tudok dolgozni, nem tudok enni.
És maguk pedig háborút akarnak Irániak, mindenki ellen úgy hogy közben annak az embernek van sárba tiporva a jogai akik a kommunizmus elnyomása alatt a hidegháborúban a maguk oldalán volt. Szégyelljék magukat.
I also said;
You are the land of Roman law and you want to deny even that (expressing opinion).

In Hungarian;
Maguk a Római törvény hazája és még ezt is meg akarják tagadni (véleménynyílvánítást).
There is a huge side-walk even a big 18-wheels truck could park in that empty place and people still could walk next to it, and nobody was there just me, well their problem was me and my banners.
- Anyway I decided to put my banners on my bag and on me and I took some pictures,
- And I only talked with the embassy, but the duct tape on my mouth only meant they too want to reject my rights.

And when other staffs of embassy arrived, they were all watching me and saying nothing, and I told them what a persecuted person feels times like this. I told them the Muslims helped me and Christians didn't understand in Islam country why I go to Muslims for help and not to Christians.
- First the two men clearly joyfully bullied me with their corrupt talk, that was their tricky bully hate toward me, to make me angry on them, and then they were just listening me (usual corrupt racist weapon of my enemies, they first used it in front of FIDESZ headquarters in 2021). And then an hour later I just heard back from police at Romanian embassy this "Yes we know you were there, they called us on phone..". Italians aren't the first who used this trick..
- And maybe they thought if an Islam country (Malaysia) can send me away, then they too can do it.. But there is difference between asking help from Malaysia, Iran and from Italy, because Italy has duties against this persecution by EU-NATO.
Actually Italy corruptly let Hungary to join NATO and EU, because this racist communist bias / prejudice is unsolved ongoing crime as even Ombudsman (UN) said me in 2015. Well Italian system was paid/bribed when they let Hungary to corruptly join NATO-EU, and now they got salary to cover up their corrupt NATO-EU decisions..

Probably the Italian corrupt secret services too are angry with me, especially with my emails what I've been sending them since years, and they've to keep ignoring it corruptly and to write reports even about my banners too..

And as always I don't want to record any embassy conversation as long there wasn't problem, but sadly the Italian embassy was very wrong and bad, they even tried to "legalize" their discrimination with using "polite / good manners excuse" tricks.
I don't know exactly the law but I believe this can head into the trickily forcing direction (trükkös kényszerítés irányba), by the way the Italian policeman responded to me first was inpolite, angry, rude way.
* 2 -Slovakian Embassy, They let me do it easily, nothing else happened
* 3 -Romanian Embassy The embassy was positively interesting and polite, for me the best way to describe this event is; I respect the Romanian embassy, (and I didn't record the conversation because the embassy was polite and helpful).
- So I wanted to start the day here but a person at the gate politely asked me to come back at 9:30, because they want to talk with me before I express my opinion. And I came back as they asked it, and then they asked my ID, and then a man arrived and politely asked me about my story, and then he said something like this "You want me/us to talk with the authority?" and I said yes and then he went into the embassy, and then 5-10 minutes later 2 policemen arrived. The policemen also were polite. I said the police I respect this embassy because they were polite and they talked with me (or I said something like this to the police). I talked the police about my persecuted situation and they photographed my banners, and also my 2020 BRFK/ORFK police email (laws, rules of expressing opinion).
And they also photographed me with my protest T-shirt, they even asked it if it's not a problem, honestly I just don't know how many times they photographed me elsewhere in my protests, and I always wondered how the police photograph my T-shirt, whether only my name can be seen or the rest too, because I demand the Hungarian etc racist communist authorities to stop their racist communist crime against my life..

- And they said I can do it, but be quiet, and I told them I came from the Italian embassy and I had argument with the embassy there, and the police said they know about it, the embassy called them. (I wonder what the Italian embassy could say against me.)
- And here too the police also said the usual "Please don't put anything on the fence etc", well I never did anywhere but that's their duty to say it. (And I was just wondering if somebody write a false report against me then how badly it can mislead/jam the police and embassies work elsewhere in my expressing opinions, they will concentrate on false things.)

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- Well it wasn't a bad but more like a good idea what the Romanian embassy did. Though I don't know what the Romanian emb said to the police when they called them, but the police were polite and they wanted to know my banners and why I want to express opinion and they let me do it easily (sure police already knew few things about the persecution).
- So I met with 2 versions;
1st, when the USA emb. looked at my banners and said "It's FIDESZ"..
2nd, when the Romanian emb. said me "Do you want me to talk to the authorities?" and I said yes and they called the police.. Though nobody stopped this persecution, but at least these 2 embassies showed something.
* 4 -Austrian Embassy I said what I want to a man at reception, and he said with smile that he doesn't understand what I said but I can do it, and nothing else happened. (Sure there are people in the Austrian system who know a lot about this and not since 2015 but since 2014.)
* 5 -Greek Embassy They said they only can deal with who has appointment, but anyway they easily let me express my opinion, nothing else happened.
* 6 -Czech Embassy The consulate didn't want to talk about it and they sent me to their embassy part, and those said they're closed, and then I simply expressed my opinion, nothing else happened.
* 7 -Spanish Embassy They let me do it easily, nothing else happened.
* 8 -Bulgarian Embassy An old man was there and he was a nice person, so I did it easily, nothing else happened.
* 9 -Albanian Embassy (it's in an apartment office in a building),
I pushed the gate-phone and then a woman said they've meeting and asked about appointment, I said I don't have and then I told her I want to express my opinion and it' s legal. Nothing else happened.
* 10 -North Macedonia Embassy, (it's in an apartment office in a building),
I pushed the gate-phone and I think a woman asked if I had appointment, anyway I told them I sent email and will express my opinion. And I started it and a man came out, maybe he was a receptionist, but he was rude, he said me the embassy sign can't be in my pictures, and I asked why, and where is the sign which banns it, and what about other people, etc. And he also said me "Get out of here (Tünj innen)", and then a couple came out and they talked with this man, and this man said to them "He's crazy (bolond)".
An old woman looked at my banners and in the end she said me "I agree with it but this (she pointed to the communist) shouldn't be there.".. I didn't say anything to her, but if they stop this persecution then I will stop doing this.
* 11 -Croatian Embassy They photographed/checked my ID, and we were waiting a lot to the police, I don't know when they called the police but they arrived about 43 minutes after me. The embassy didn't want to let me take pictures in public space in front of their embassy while there wasn't any "no-photographing" sign anywhere, and they also said the cars can't be photographed (2 normal cars with civil license-plate on them in public area). Well after about 32 minutes waiting in front of the embassy I decided to put my banners onto my bag and on me. And after about 8-9 minutes later I decided to take selfy pictures, because the embassy wasn't able to tell me why they make difference between me and other people in that public area, and by the way photos about the embassy was on Internet everywhere. They only said me "what if the owner doesn't want you to do it", well the owner is Croatia, a country (so was it segregation / discrimination?).
And after my 1 minutes long photographing I started to put away my banner, because I finished my expressing opinion, but suddenly the police arrived.. So I built up my banners again, and I told the police there isn't any "no-photographing" sign, and I told them I don't know what is the difference between me and other people because those can do it if they want while I can't. And the police said I can do it. So it was over and I put away the banners and I said the police I go to the Polish embassy and they said they know about it (it's in my email and that embassy too is in their district).
- So here too I only talked with the embassy, but the duct tape on my mouth only meant they too want to reject my rights to collect evidences.

(- I wouldn't be surprised if somebody was watching me and waiting how far the embassy can push the problem, because the police arrived when I was about to leave, when I finished my expressing opinion there. The 2 policemen were young and polite, easy but it doesn't mean nobody ordered them to wait 40 minutes.)
* 12 -Polish Embassy I went into the consulate and I tried to tell them what I want, but when they heard "expressing opinion" then they suddenly said they don't want to talk about it and I've to leave the embassy (they looked a very little upset confused). And then I went outside and I expressed my opinion and nothing else happened.
- Well ironically 15 years ago a Polish "workmate" in UK was arrogantly singing next to me "where do you go honey.." it was 1-2 hours before I realised I've to leave "voluntary" my last job and UK..

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- And wish I could record the embassies when they act honestly and politely, and show it on the Internet.
But for example when I complained to the USA embassy about what happened in my first 2 times there, then they corrected themselves politely, and then I thanked it on their X account. But since I realized anybody can use these "thnaks", just as the "I respect the Russian embassy", and the "help in Malaysia".
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- Hungary is strongly divided with Romania and Slovakia, and I think that's why none of these two wanted more division problems especially into the EU-NATO security directions.. And probably it was interesting moment for Romania when a Hungarian is asking them to try to do something with the Hungarian govt because of human rights crime..
- And Romania has Black-sea border where there is Russia too not just Ukraine, and they felt the war a few times, sure their security's eyes is on the war and on the Black-sea..
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- And the Italians are a painted as good/friendly/funny character by the Hungarian propaganda, so Italian embassy's act was protected/covered up already.
These Italians acted as some Italians are acting in Italy, so they knew something very good, or they were arrogantly fishing, because to do this especially next to Iranian embassy means that. Sure Iran was on my banner, and I always say in my emails "I'd be dead already without help of Muslims in Malaysia" and Italians don't really like Islam.
- The Italy's Giorgia Meloni leader said "no place for Islam in Europe", but they and FIDESZ and others are burnning the Rome Law in Hungary even front of them and next to Iran emb just to keep warm their privileged clubs, and that's why they need to use "good-looking polite" cards. I wonder how they would feel if Iran would answer, even if it means to marry a Muslim woman there because in Malaysia the only problem was that even the lobbies of my enemies came after me very easily, as I even heard it back from others there.
- Probably Malaysia and the helpful people there were attacked by lobbies of EU-NATO countries, and that's a lot and hard to track them down perfectly.

- Well the Italian embassy behaved like it would be a privileged club, and the Italian system has been acting this way even when I crossed Italy in the last 9 years.
And also the UK emb too has been doing this, but English don't go to war with themselves, here too they used 3rd parties (African and Hungarian guards, police, etc) between me and them, but Italians go to war with themselves in this situations.
- A problem with the "not going to war with yourself" is that the "allies" can be stolen, no wonder why UK is losing its colonies/markets to China without any war, and they just cry in their media etc..

- And my situation is showing me that Europe is much worse than USA. Kissinger's saying "being enemy of USA is dangerous but friend is fatal" isn't really true here in Europe. Well USA is also a bogeyman card in Europe, but I don't want to ignore Kissinger's words.
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- And the cleaner at the Belgium emb was right when he said I should go to other embassies too. I admit I went very slowly to new embassies. And I felt this day that why Belgium is sick and tired of EU-NATO, etc and bureaucrats and with their impunity in Belgium, well not all but some embassies are pure reflections of it.
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And Croatia, Macedonia are former Yugoslav countries so that's why they acted in similar way against my expressing opinion. And I don't know at all Croatia neither North-Macedonia, but Internet says Macedonia has serious human rights issues.
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And Austrian system is for example that type which always act as the moment of opportunity let it.

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- On Oct 16, 2024 I reported it to EU-NATO countries, and to NATO.



On October-16-2024, I sent this email to Mark Rutte NATO secretary General of NATO; -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Intelligence), -PESCO, -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zsolt Semjén, -Hungary Helps Program, -Azbej Tristan, -Péter Kovács, -Governments, -Ministries, and -Defences (Armies), -Secret services, of NATO and EU countries,

I reported / informed the EU-NATO countries about what happened at Italian, North Macedonian and Croatian embassies and also at Romanian embassy. (I deleted a part of the video links to keep them unpulished, so the links only works for those who recieved my emails)


This is what I reported in the email;
Dear Sir, Madam,
On September 25, 2024, I expressed my opinion in front of twelve embassies of EU-NATO countries in Budapest (its email 108Bp20240918To.pdf), (Video links are KimarNVideo34.pdf attachment.) I used these banners attached as 20240925BnrBp.pdf. -Because the authorities racist communist crimes, corruption have been oppressing my human rights and endangering my life in Hungary since 2015. -But the facts are slowly showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the EU, NATO, and or representing those. And the FIDESZ-KDNP government too is responsible for that. More information about this can be found in these attachments 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf.

And this happened;
- The Italian, North Macedonian and Croatian Embassies unlawfully tried to prevent me from expressing my opinion in front of them and taking evidence pictures about this. And this is aiding the persecution against me. Video link; It1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X... -It2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...
-Mk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A... -Hr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...
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- Romanian Embassy, (I didn't record what they said because they were polite and helpful). An embassy official asked why I wanted to express opinion and after I answered he asked something like this; "You want us to talk with the authority?", and I said "Yes", then he went into the embassy and 5-10 minutes later two police officers arrived. I recorded this conversation, link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...
We talked about my persecuted situation, and they photographed my banners, some of my emails/letters, and me in my protest T-shirt. And then they said that I can express my opinion.
- Although I don't know what the embassy told the police on the phone, - but the police had to write a report and send it to somewhere, but my human rights are still oppressed.
- Practically this event proves that how the authorities sweep under the rug their human rights crimes, instead of stopping it, - even if for example, a victim of human rights crime goes abroad to ask for help, - and those send back the victim to Hungary with the ongoing human rights crime. - And this will be more radically corrupt and evil in war time.

And this is the email;
Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
16, October, 2024. Hungary,

To; Mark Rutte NATO secretary General of NATO; -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Intelligence), -PESCO,
-Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zsolt Semjén,
-Hungary Helps Program, -Azbej Tristan, -Péter Kovács,
-Governments, -Ministries, and -Defences (Armies), -Secret services, of NATO and EU countries, (Some countries don't have email just "e Contact Form", etc, therefore I sent this to them there, and/or to their embassies.)

Attachments; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg, 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf, 2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf
2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf, 2024TBTaxAid.pdf, 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf
02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf, 20240213ToNatoEU.pdf, 20240429ToEUNatoRed.pdf, 20240823ToNatoEU.pdf
20240925BnrBp.pdf, KimarNVideo34.pdf, 20151115Consul.png, 20241008ToNato.pdf, 108Bp20240918To.pdf
Subject; NATO-EU Corruption, and Racism

Dear Sir, Madam,
On September 25, 2024, I expressed my opinion in front of twelve embassies of EU-NATO countries in Budapest (its email 108Bp20240918To.pdf), (Video links are KimarNVideo34.pdf attachment.) I used these banners attached as 20240925BnrBp.pdf. -Because the authorities racist communist crimes, corruption have been oppressing my human rights and endangering my life in Hungary since 2015. -But the facts are slowly showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the EU, NATO, and or representing those. And the FIDESZ-KDNP government too is responsible for that. More information about this can be found in these attachments 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf.

And this happened;
- The Italian, North Macedonian and Croatian Embassies unlawfully tried to prevent me from expressing my opinion in front of them and taking evidence pictures about this. And this is aiding the persecution against me. Video link; It1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X... -It2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...
-Mk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A... -Hr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...
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- Romanian Embassy, (I didn't record what they said because they were polite and helpful). An embassy official asked why I wanted to express opinion and after I answered he asked something like this; "You want us to talk with the authority?", and I said "Yes", then he went into the embassy and 5-10 minutes later two police officers arrived. I recorded this conversation, link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...
We talked about my persecuted situation, and they photographed my banners, some of my emails/letters, and me in my protest T-shirt. And then they said that I can express my opinion.
- Although I don't know what the embassy told the police on the phone, - but the police had to write a report and send it to somewhere, but my human rights are still oppressed.
- Practically this event proves that how the authorities sweep under the rug their human rights crimes, instead of stopping it, - even if for example, a victim of human rights crime goes abroad to ask for help, - and those send back the victim to Hungary with the ongoing human rights crime. - And this will be more radically corrupt and evil in war time.
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Note: I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without help of people I met in Malaysia, most were Muslims, and God proved that their help forced the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution, and not the Malaysian politicians etc because they're corrupt. - Well these are what we can experience when the carelessly corrupt parts of EU, NATO secret services are recycling the ex-KGB's Hungarian part.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár


*** in Hungarian / Magyarul ***

Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,0
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2024, október, 16

Címzett; Mark Rutte NATO Főtitkár, -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Hírszerző ügynökségei), -PESCO,
-Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Semjén Zsolt,
-Hungary Helps Program, -Azbej Tristan, -Kovács Péter,
-NATO és EU országok; -Kormányai, -Minisztériumai, -Honvédelmei (Hadseregei), és -Titkosszolgálatai, (Néhány országnak nincs e-mailje csak "e-Kapcsolatfelvételi űrlap", stb van, ezért ezt nekik oda küldöm, és/vagy a nagykövetségeiknek.)

Csatolás; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg, 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf, 2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf
2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf, 2024TBTaxAid.pdf, 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf
02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf, 20240213ToNatoEU.pdf, 20240429ToEUNatoRed.pdf, 20240823ToNatoEU.pdf
20240925BnrBp.pdf, KimarNVideo34.pdf, 20151115Consul.png, 20241008ToNato.pdf, 108Bp20240918To.pdf

Tárgy; NATO-EU Korrupció, és Rasszizmus

Tisztelt Cím!
2024 szeptember 25-én a véleményemet nyilvánítottam ki tizenkettő EU-NATO országok nagykövetségei előtt Budapesten (emailje 108Bp20240918To.pdf), (Video linkek a KimarNVideo34.pdf csatolásban vannak.) Ezeket a transzparenseket használtam csatolva mint 20240925BnrBp.pdf. -Mert a hatóságok rasszista kommunista bűnei, korrupciói elnyomják az emberi jogaimat és veszélyeztetik az életemet Móagyarországon 2015 óta. -De a tények lassan azt mutatják, hogy ezt az üldöztetést azok a (ex)kommunista ügynökök (és családjaik, stb) csinálják, akik most az EU-nak, NATO-nak dolgoznak, és vagy képviselik azokat. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért. További információk erről a csatolásokban találhatók 20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 02ToEUKimarN20220729.pdf.

És ez történt;
- Az Olasz, Észak-Macedón és Horvát Nagykövetségek illegálisan próbáltak megakadályozni engem, hogy véleményt nyilvánítsak előttük, és erről bizonyítékként fényképeket készítsek. És ez segíti az üldöztetést ellenem. Video link; It1; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... -It2; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...
-Mk; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... -Hr; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...
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- Román Nagykövetség, (Nem rögzítettem, amit mondtak, mert udvariasak és segítőkészek voltak). A nagykövetség egyik tisztviselője megkérdezte, miért akarok véleményt nyilvánítani, és miután válaszoltam, valami ilyesmit kérdezett; "Azt akarja, hogy beszéljünk a hatósággal?" és azt mondtam "Igen", majd bement a követségre, és 5-10 perc múlva két rendőr érkezett. Ezt a beszélgetést rögzítettem, link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...
Az üldözött helyzetemről beszélgettünk, és lefényképezték a transzparenseimet, néhány e-mailemet / leveleimet, és engem a tiltakozó pólómmal. És aztán mondták hogy kinyilváníthatom a véleményemet.
- Bár nem tudom mit mondott a nagykövetség a rendőrségnek telefonon, - de a rendőrségnek jelentést kellett írni és elküldeni valahova, de az emberi jogaim még mindig el vannak nyomva.
- Gyakorlatilag ez az esemény azt bizonyítja, hogy a hatóságok hogyan söprik a szőnyeg alá az emberi jogi bűncselekményeiket, ahelyett hogy megállítanák, - még akkor is ha például egy emberi jogi bűncselekmény áldozata külföldre megy segítséget kérni, - és azok visszaküldik Magyarországra az áldozatot a folyamatban lévő emberi jogi bűncselekménnyel. - És ez pedig sokkal radikálisan korruptabb és gonoszabb lesz háborús időben.
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Megjegyzés: Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a 20210711_Kimar- N_Motko-T.pdf levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék a Malajziában megismert emberek segítsége nélkül, a legtöbb muszlim volt, és isten bebizonyította, hogy segítségük arra kényszerítette a magyar rendszert, hogy kicsit vissza lépjen az üldözésben, és nem a malajziai politikusok stb mert ők korruptak. - Nos ezek amiket tapasztalhatunk, amikor az EU, NATO titkosszolgálatok hanyagul korrupt részei újrahasznosítják az ex-KGB magyar részét.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert
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Technically there are embassies / governments in EU-NATO world which are scared to see my banners in my few minutes long events in front of them.


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- On Oct 24, 2024 I forwarded the email to Russia and Iran.


On 24 October 2024 I forwarded my earlier email to Iran and Russia, and I also addressed it to NATO too.
That forwarded email's date is 16, October, 2024, and subject "NATO-EU Corruption, and Racism / NATO-EU Korrupció, és Rasszizmus".
And I already posted that email in this forum on 20 October. It was about that "I reported / informed the EU-NATO countries about what happened at Italian, North Macedonian and Croatian embassies and also at Romanian embassy."

So this is what I wrote when I forwarded the earlier email.
To; -I.R.Iran Embassy in Budapest, -Ministry of Foreign Affairs of I.R.Iran,
-Russian Embassy in Hungary, -Stanislavov Evgeniy Arnoldovich Ambassador, -Government of Russia, SVR, FSB,
-Mark Rutte NATO secretary General of NATO; -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Intelligence), -PESCO,

Dear Sir, Madam,
I'd like to forward this email to I.R.Iran and the Russian Federation, to show how some EU / NATO countries behaved against my expressing opinion, instead of following those rules and laws that NATO and EU demand.
- Honestly this is an irony and the reflection of corruption. There are wars and threats about the wars will be bigger, and I've to forward this email to the "enemy" of EU-NATO countries, - because nobody stands up for the basic human rights security in the EU-NATO world, - while responsible people act like they know what they do.
- And the "KimarNVideo34.pdf" attachment contains also the video links of my earlier expressing opinions too, including when I did it in front of your embassies.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár

*** in Hungarian / Magyarul ***

Címzett; -Iráni.I.K. Nagykövetsége Budapesten, -Iráni.I.K. Külügyminisztérium,
-Oroszország Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, Sztaniszlavov Evgenij Arnoldovics Nagykövet, -Oroszország Kormánya, SVR, FSB,
-Mark Rutte NATO Főtitkár, -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Hírszerző ügynökségei), PESCO,

Tisztelt Cím!
Szeretném továbbítani Iráni.I.K.-nak és az Oroszországi Föderációnak ezt az e-mailt, hogy bemutassam, hogyan viselkedett néhány EU / NATO ország a vélemény nyilvánításom ellen, ahelyett, hogy követnénk azokat a szabályokat és törvényeket, amelyeket a NATO és az EU követel.
- Őszintén szólva ez irónia és a korrupció tükröződése. Háborúk vannak és fenyegetések, hogy a háborúk nagyobbak lesznek, és ezt az e-mailt továbbítanom kell az EU-NATO országok "ellenségeinek", - mert senki sem áll ki az alapvető emberi jogi biztonság mellett az EU-NATO világban, - mialatt a felelős emberek úgy tesznek, mintha tudnák hogy mit csinálnak.
- És a "KimarNVideo34.pdf" csatolás tartalmazza a korábbi véleménynyilvánításaim videó linkjeit is, beleértve azt is, amikor az Önök követségei előtt csináltam.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert
knorbert
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Re: ethic problem by psychiatric examination

Post by knorbert »

I'd like to post the followings here too for those who have not enough time to read my longer topic, because this can be interesting, and can be useful.

On January, 28, 2025 I sent this email to -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -Tristan Azbej, -Péter Kovács, -Hungary Helps Program,
-Hungarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Péter Szijjártó Minister,
-Hungarian Embassy in Malaysia, -dr. Petra Ponevács-Pana Ambassador, -Ms. Katalin Böszörményi-Nagy Deputy Head of Mission
-Malaysian Embassy in Budapest, -Malaysian Foreign Affairs Ministry, -Immigration Department of Malaysia (Ministry of Home Affairs)
-Anti-refugee Malaysian politicians, and their supporters,

Subject "Demand",

This is the main part in English;
Dear Sir, Madam,
In this email, I demand that the Hungarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and Embassy, Consulate to Malaysia, and Böszörményi-Nagy Katalin consul withdraw what they unlawfully "suggested" to me in 2015 via email, when I was in a hostel in Malaysia as a tourist (the email attached as 20151115Consul.png).

I asked this; "kedves konzul Melyik az a magyar törvény amelyik tiltja azt a külföldi orvosi segitséget, amit a magyar orvosi rendszer nem tud etikailag biztositani? Kérem, meg tudná mondani azt a törvényt?
dear consul Which is that Hungarian law which forbid that medical help, what the Hungarian medical system can not secure by ethic?Could you please tell me that law?"
And the consul answered this; "Magyar törvény nem tiltja a külföldi orvosi segítségnyújtást. Eredeti kérdése azonban nem erre vonatkozott. Amennyiben nem bízik a magyar egészségügyi szolgáltatásokban és hatóságokban, újfent javaslom, hogy igényeljen jelenlegi tartózkodási helyén gépjárművezetői engedélyt."
In English; "Hungarian law doesn't prohibit the foreign provision of health care. However, your original question wasn't about that. If you don't trust the Hungarian health services and authorities, I again recommend that you apply for a driver's licence at your current place of residence."

And this is my question to Malaysian anti-refugee politicians, and their supporters;
Isn't that a double standard? Do you really welcome Eastern EU refugees to settle as the embassy/consulate corruptly "suggested" and until now they have never withdrawn it, apologized for it?
-I loved being in Malaysia, but I always preferred to come home to fight for my rights, but this 2015 email serves as a precedent.

Reasoning;
I know the email's date is "2015" but the consul's words still exist, and this is nothing but aiding racial persecution and this is the category of ethnic cleansing. This is how they force people to become refugee on abroad. And after this in Hungary when I tried to get back my human rights then some of the authorities, civil servants, etc said to me this "Leave the country (Hungary)". Practically they used the "suggestion" of consul as a precedent answer. And for example, on July 03, 2024, I mentioned this email to the police in front of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's office, and the police said; "The consulate is little bit higher power than we..". Video time 10:08, link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Aj35dgAaI

And this is the email in Hungarian and in English;
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2025, január, 28

Címzett; Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -Azbej Tristan, -Kovács Péter, -Hungary Helps Program,
-Magyar Külgazdasági és Külügyminisztérium, Szijjártó Péter Miniszter,
-Magyar Nagykövetség Malajziában, -Dr. Ponevács-Pana Petra nagykövet, -Böszörményi-Nagy Katalin elsőbeosztott diplomata
-Malajzia Budapesti Nagykövetsége, -Malajziai Külügy Minisztérium, -Malajziai Bevándorlási Hivatal (Belügyminisztérium)
-Menekült ellenes Malajziai politikusok, és támogatóik,

Csatolás; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg, 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf, 20151115Consul.png
Tárgy; Követelés

Tisztelt Cím!
Ebben az e-mailben követelem hogy a magyar Külügyminisztérium, és Nagykövetség / Konzulátus Malajziában, és Böszörményi-Nagy Katalin konzul vonja vissza azt, amit 2015-ben e-mailben törvénytelenül "javasolt" nekem, amikor Malajziában egy hostelben voltam turistaként (az email csatolva mint 20151115Consul.png).

Ezt kérdeztem; "kedves konzul Melyik az a magyar törvény amelyik tiltja azt a külföldi orvosi segitséget, amit a magyar orvosi rendszer nem tud etikailag biztositani? Kérem, meg tudná mondani azt a törvényt?
dear consul Which is that Hungarian law which forbid that medical help, what the Hungarian medical system can not secure by ethic?Could you please tell me that law?"
És a konzul ezt válaszolta; "Magyar törvény nem tiltja a külföldi orvosi segítségnyújtást. Eredeti kérdése azonban nem erre vonatkozott. Amennyiben nem bízik a magyar egészségügyi szolgáltatásokban és hatóságokban, újfent javaslom, hogy igényeljen jelenlegi tartózkodási helyén gépjárművezetői engedélyt."

És ez a kérdésem a malajziai menekültellenes politikusokhoz, támogatóikhoz;
Ez nem kettős mérce? Önök valóban üdvözlik a kelet EU-s menekülteket, hogy letelepedjek, ahogy a nagykövetség/konzulátus korruptan "javasolta", és idáig soha nem vonták vissza, nem kértek bocsánatot?
-Én szerettem Malajziában lenni, de mindig is inkább hazajöttem, hogy a jogaimért harcoljak, de ez a 2015-ös e-mail precedensként szolgál.

Indoklás;
Tudom, hogy az e-mail dátuma „2015”, de a konzul szava továbbra is létezik, és ez nem más, mint a rasszista üldözés segítése, és ez az etnikai tisztogatás kategóriája. Így kényszerítik az embereket a menekültté válásra külföldön. És ezután Magyarországon, amikor megpróbáltam visszaszerezni az emberi jogaimat akkor néhány hatóság, köztisztviselő stb ezt mondta nekem "Hagyja el az országot (Magyarországot)". Gyakorlatilag a konzul „javaslatát” használták precedens válaszként. És például 2024 július 03-án megemlítettem ezt az e-mailt a rendőrségnek Orbán Viktor miniszterelnök irodája előtt, és a rendőrség azt mondta; "A konzulátus egy kicsit magasabb hatalom mint mi vagyunk..". Videó idő 10:08, link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Aj35dgAaI
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Megjegyzés: Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék a Malajziában megismert emberek segítsége nélkül, a legtöbb muszlim volt, és isten bebizonyította, hogy segítségük arra kényszerítette a magyar rendszert, hogy kicsit vissza lépjen az üldözésben, és nem a malajziai politikusok stb mert ők korruptak. -Nos ezek amiket tapasztalhatunk, amikor az EU, NATO titkosszolgálatok hanyagul korrupt részei újrahasznosítják az ex-KGB magyar részét.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert


*** Angolul / in English ***

Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
28, January, 2025, Hungary,

To; -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -Tristan Azbej, -Péter Kovács, -Hungary Helps Program,
-Hungarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Péter Szijjártó Minister,
-Hungarian Embassy in Malaysia, -dr. Petra Ponevács-Pana Ambassador, -Ms. Katalin Böszörményi-Nagy Deputy Head of Mission
-Malaysian Embassy in Budapest, -Malaysian Foreign Affairs Ministry, -Immigration Department of Malaysia (Ministry of Home Affairs)
-Anti-refugee Malaysian politicians, and their supporters,

Attachment; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg, 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf, 20151115Consul.png
Subject; Demand

Dear Sir, Madam,
In this email, I demand that the Hungarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and Embassy, Consulate to Malaysia, and Böszörményi-Nagy Katalin consul withdraw what they unlawfully "suggested" to me in 2015 via email, when I was in a hostel in Malaysia as a tourist (the email attached as 20151115Consul.png).

I asked this; "kedves konzul Melyik az a magyar törvény amelyik tiltja azt a külföldi orvosi segitséget, amit a magyar orvosi rendszer nem tud etikailag biztositani? Kérem, meg tudná mondani azt a törvényt?
dear consul Which is that Hungarian law which forbid that medical help, what the Hungarian medical system can not secure by ethic?Could you please tell me that law?"
And the consul answered this; "Magyar törvény nem tiltja a külföldi orvosi segítségnyújtást. Eredeti kérdése azonban nem erre vonatkozott. Amennyiben nem bízik a magyar egészségügyi szolgáltatásokban és hatóságokban, újfent javaslom, hogy igényeljen jelenlegi tartózkodási helyén gépjárművezetői engedélyt."
In English; "Hungarian law doesn't prohibit the foreign provision of health care. However, your original question wasn't about that. If you don't trust the Hungarian health services and authorities, I again recommend that you apply for a driver's licence at your current place of residence."

And this is my question to Malaysian anti-refugee politicians, and their supporters;
Isn't that a double standard? Do you really welcome Eastern EU refugees to settle as the embassy/consulate corruptly "suggested" and until now they have never withdrawn it, apologized for it?
-I loved being in Malaysia, but I always preferred to come home to fight for my rights, but this 2015 email serves as a precedent.

Reasoning;
I know the email's date is "2015" but the consul's words still exist, and this is nothing but aiding racial persecution and this is the category of ethnic cleansing. This is how they force people to become refugee on abroad. And after this in Hungary when I tried to get back my human rights then some of the authorities, civil servants, etc said to me this "Leave the country (Hungary)". Practically they used the "suggestion" of consul as a precedent answer. And for example, on July 03, 2024, I mentioned this email to the police in front of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's office, and the police said; "The consulate is little bit higher power than we..". Video time 10:08, link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Aj35dgAaI
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Note: I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without help of people I met in Malaysia, most were Muslims, and God proved that their help forced the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution, and not the Malaysian politicians etc because they're corrupt. -Well these are what we can experience when the carelessly corrupt parts of EU, NATO secret services are recycling the ex-KGB's Hungarian part.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár



lol, and when I was writing this email then I used the translator and it tried to minimize my sentences, for example when I wrote "I demand" then it translated to "I ask".

Well sure when I visited the embassy / consulate in 2018 then they asked how I stay in Malaysia and I told them "
That's a very good question, you know what you tell me how I stay here." and they said "You stay here as a tourist.". Well I tried to look it as they withdrew from their 2015 unlawful email, but fact is they never did it, and I'm still persecuted. By the way the Hungarian embassy in Malaysia even blocked my facebook account so..
And for example even in 2021 when the Hungarian police took me away from my protest and while I was behind bars in custody, then I said to a police "Where can I report all of you? Because I want to report all of you.." and he said me "to the consul"..

- I wonder how the Malaysian and the Hungarian systems will react;
a) because the racist ex-commie agent Hungarian system's biggest nightmare would be if they would have to allow their racist crime victims to make any psychiatric examination on abroad = it would be a pure collapse of their power.

b) but if they refuse to take back their racist unlawful "suggestion" then they're a "precedent" problem for Malaysian system too. And the Malaysian system can't protect this with saying the unlawful act of embassy is clean now, and it's no problem meanwhile their words still exists and used as a precedence.

And I'll probably express my opinion with banners in front of Malaysian embassy in Budapest to "ask" the Malaysian system and the Malaysian anti-immigrant people to make the Hungarian embassy to withdraw their unlawful "suggestion". And also I will demand this in front of Hungarian Foreign Affair Ministry too.

And interestingly this consul which sent the "2015 email", Ms. Katalin Böszörményi-Nagy is now the Deputy Head of Mission to Malaysia, so she stepped forward. And news sometimes say those authorities get also promotions which are aiding or connected to human rights crimes, and I just wonder am I the only victim of her racist corrupt words or there are more..

And I also addressed this email to the Hungary Helps Program (Christian org) too, and its job is to prevent this kind of "suggestions" / persecutions too, so now they all can show how to solve this..
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- Great right?! Orban PM the big anti-immigration / anti-refugee is in another catch-22 in this racist human rights crime.. Just like Trump doesn't want immigration into USA but right now he wants to force move the war crime victim Palestinians from Gaza to other countries.
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Re: ethic problem by psychiatric examination

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I'd like to post the followings here too in case somebody has no time to read my longer topc, The 1st part is about an email, and the 2nd is about a USSR and modern Russian psychiatric fraud news / article.
(My longer topic can be boring sometimes but I recomend it for those who need more info, and evidences.)

** 1 ** On February-23-2025, I sent this email to -USA Embassy in Hungary, FBI, CIA, David Holmes Chargé d'Affaires, a.i. -Russian Embassy in Hungary, -Stanislavov Evgeniy Arnoldovich Ambassador, -Kremlin, SVR, FSB, -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -FIDESZ-KDNP political parties, -Péter Szijjártó Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade,
- Subject; "Kérdések a béke tárgyalással kapcsolatban és népirtásról / Questions about peace
negotiation and genocide". And below this email I forwarded the date of Jul 8, 2024 email, this is the what I sent last year when Orban PM made a peace mission to Russia and I was still persecuted..

This is my questions and reasons in English;
Dear Sir, Madam,
I read in the news that the USA and Russia started to negotiate the peace between Russia and Ukraine in Saudi Arabia.
- Though I'm Hungarian and I live in Hungary, but my human rights are violated, and because of that I have had no income for many years, therefore my old mother pays for my food. And the ex-KGB, the Russian communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And the FIDESZ-KDNP government too is responsible for that. - And the facts are showing that those ex-communist agents (and their families etc) are doing this racist persecution who are now working for the West, especially for the EU and NATO. - And there was a time when I thought this is just a false flag attack (20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf), but if I follow the Russian money and the purpose of the friends of Russia, then there is also a radical, fanatic soviet ideology in this racist crime what FSB, SVR etc control.

I'd like to ask this from the Russian Embassy, and Kremlin;
- 1; Since 2020 what have you been doing to stop this anti-social, racist-communist human-rights crime against my life?
I started to express my opinion with banners in front of Russian embassy on 08-31-2020 in Budapest. And under this persecution I met with many nice Russians whom I want to respect, - but for me this USA-Russia peace negotiation in Saudi Arabia just uncovered the radical/fanatic pro-Soviet part of the FSB, SVR etc (the KGB ideology), it's like a missing / hidden puzzle stepped out from behind of the nice Russians' back.
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- For example in 2021, one of the provocateurs of the crypto- and pro- communist agent families shouted this to me from across the street in my town; "What's up! Have you accepted your destiny yet!?", months before, he arrogantly protected the persecution against me in front of the Kazincbarcika police station in my town, while I was expressing my opinion there with my banners.
- 2; What destiny is promised for you and for this kind of people and for people like me by the Kremlin and by the UN law?
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- 3; Why was it that your embassy and your country refused to give me legal help and money aid to buy food for myself when I asked it in November 2023?
- Well Brit and USA embassies also refused me, - but for example, according to the news, the French Marine Le Pen received a lot of money from Russia to help her political career and campaigns. - And in 2021 Viktor Orbán PM (and Lőrinc Mészáros oligarch) who are known as the friends of Kremlin also gave her money, and some news also say the origin of that money was from Russia to influence election in the EU-NATO member France.
- I just don't understand this; -Russia can give money to support / influence politics and propaganda, etc in the EU-NATO world, but I'm refused, though I need money to buy food, because of my rights to live, and that ideology persecutes me which originates from Russia.

I'd like to ask this from the U.S.A. of Embassy;
If so far the USA - Russia peace negotiation was successful in Saudi Arabia (and I hope there will be real peace soon) then;
- Why can't the security part of the American NATO convince Prime Minister Viktor Orbán to stop this ex-KGB human rights crime and genocide in the NATO member Hungary?
I started to express my opinion with banners in front of USA embassy on 11-15-2023 in Budapest, and on 03-13-2024 the embassy looked at my banners and said; "It's the FIDESZ", (the banners attached as 20240313BannerBp.pdf).
And I don't know; where and why stops the termination, condemnation of this human rights crime, genocide, for example in the security part of the American NATO, and politics.

And this is the full email;
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2025, február, 23

Címzett: -U.S.A. Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, FBI, CIA, David Holmes ideiglenes ügyvivő,
-Oroszország Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, Sztanyiszlavov Jevgenyij Arnoldovics Nagykövet, -Kreml, SVR, FSB,
-Orbán Viktor Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai pártok, -Szijjártó Péter, Külgazdasági és Külügyminiszter,

Csatolás; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf
20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 2024TBtaxAid.pdf; 20240313BannerBp.pdf;
KimarN20240703BpRu.jpg
Tárgy; Kérdések a béke tárgyalással kapcsolatban és népirtásról


Tisztelt Cím!
A hírekben olvastam, hogy USA és Oroszország elkezdett tárgyalni a békéről Oroszország és Ukrajna között Szaúd-Arábiában.
- Habár én magyar vagyok és Magyarországon élek, de az emberi jogaim meg vannak sértve, és emiatt nincs jövedelmem évek óta, ezért az idős édesanyám fizeti az ételemet. És az ex-KGB-nek az Orosz kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért. - És a tények azt mutatják, hogy azok az ex-kommunista ügynökök (és családjaik stb) csinálják ezt a rasszista üldözést akik most a Nyugatnak, főképpen az EU-nak és a NATO-nak dolgoznak. - És volt egy idő amikor én azt hittem, hogy ez csak egy hamis zászlós támadás (20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf), de ha követem az orosz pénzt és Oroszország barátjainak céljait, akkor ebben a rasszista bűnben van egy radikális, fanatikus szovjet ideológia is, amit az FSB, SVR stb irányít.

Ezt szeretném kérdezni az Orosz Nagykövetségtől, és Kreml-től;
- 1; 2020 óta mit tettek Önök azért hogy megállítsák ezt az életem elleni antiszociális, rasszista-kommunista emberi-jogi bűncselekményt?
2020-08-31-én kezdtem el véleményt nyilvánítani transzparensekkel a Budapesti Orosz Nagykövetség előtt. És ezen üldöztetés alatt sok kedves orosszal találkoztam, akiket tisztelni akarok, - de számomra ez az USA-Oroszország béketárgyalás Szaúd-Arábiában csak leleplezte az FSB, SVR stb radikális / fanatikus szovjet-párti részét (a KGB ideológiát), olyan, mintha a kedves oroszok háta mögül kilépett volna egy hiányzó / rejtett puzzle.
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- Például 2021-ben a kripto- és pro-kommunista ügynök családok egyik provokátora ezt kiabálta nekem az utca túloldaláról a városomban; "Mi van! Elfogadtad már a sorsodat!?", hónapokkal ezelőtt arrogánsan védte az ellenem irányuló üldöztetést a Kazincbarcikai rendőrkapitányság előtt a városomban, miközben véleményt nyilvánítottam ott a transzparenseimmel.
- 2; Milyen sorsot ígér a Kreml és az ENSZ törvénye Önöknek és az ilyen típusú embereknek, és olyan embereknek mint én?
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- 3; Miért volt az, hogy az Önök nagykövetsége és az Önök országa elutasította a jogi segítséget és a pénzsegélyt, hogy élelmiszert vegyek magamnak, amikor 2023 novemberében kértem azt?
- Nos, a Brit és az USA nagykövetségek is visszautasítottak engem, - de például a hírek szerint a francia Marine Le Pen rengeteg pénzt kapott Oroszországtól, hogy segítsék a politikai karrierjét és kampányait. - És 2021-ben pedig a Kreml barátjaként ismert Orbán Viktor miniszterelnök (és Mészáros Lőrinc oligarcha) is adott neki pénzt, és egyes hírek szerint ennek a pénznek az eredete Oroszországból származott, hogy befolyásolják a választásokat az EU-NATO-tag Franciaországban.
- Ezt egyszerűen nem értem; -Oroszország tud pénzt adni a politika és propaganda, stb támogatására / befolyásolására az EU-NATO világban, de engem elutasítanak, bár pénzre van szükségem, hogy ételt vegyek, az élethez való jogom miatt, és az a ideológia üldöz engem ami Oroszországból származik.

Ezt szeretném kérdezni az USA Nagykövetségtől;
Ha idáig az USA-Oroszország béketárgyalás sikeres volt Szaúd-Arábiában (és remélem hamarosan igazi béke lesz) akkor;
- Miért nem tudja az amerikai NATO biztonsági része meggyőzni Orbán Viktor miniszterelnököt, hogy állítsa le ezt az ex-KGB emberi jogi bűncselekményt, népirtást a NATO-tag Magyarországon?
2023-11-15-én kezdtem el véleményt nyilvánítani transzparensekkel az USA nagykövetsége előtt Budapesten, és 2024-03-13-án a nagykövetség megtekintette a transzparenseimet, és azt mondta: "Ez a FIDESZ", (a transzparensek csatolva 20240313BannerBp.pdf).
És nem tudom, hogy; hol és miért áll meg ennek az emberi jogi bűncselekménynek, népirtásnak a megszüntetése, elítélése például az amerikai NATO biztonsági részében, és politikában.
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Megjegyzés: Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék a Malajziában megismert emberek segítsége nélkül, a legtöbb muszlim volt, és isten bebizonyította, hogy segítségük arra kényszerítette a magyar rendszert, hogy kicsit vissza lépjen az üldözésben, és nem a malajziai politikusok stb mert ők korruptak.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert


*** Angolul / in English ***

Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
23, February, 2025. Hungary,

To: -USA Embassy in Hungary, FBI, CIA, David Holmes Chargé d'Affaires, a.i.
-Russian Embassy in Hungary, -Stanislavov Evgeniy Arnoldovich Ambassador, -Kremlin, SVR, FSB,
-Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -FIDESZ-KDNP political parties, -Péter Szijjártó Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade,

Attachment; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf
20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf, 2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 2024TBtaxAid.pdf; 20240313BannerBp.pdf; KimarN20240703BpRu.jpg
Subject; Questions about peace negotiation and genocide

Dear Sir, Madam,
I read in the news that the USA and Russia started to negotiate the peace between Russia and Ukraine in Saudi Arabia.
- Though I'm Hungarian and I live in Hungary, but my human rights are violated, and because of that I have had no income for many years, therefore my old mother pays for my food. And the ex-KGB, the Russian communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And the FIDESZ-KDNP government too is responsible for that. - And the facts are showing that those ex-communist agents (and their families etc) are doing this racist persecution who are now working for the West, especially for the EU and NATO. - And there was a time when I thought this is just a false flag attack (20231219ToReutYahoo.pdf), but if I follow the Russian money and the purpose of the friends of Russia, then there is also a radical, fanatic soviet ideology in this racist crime what FSB, SVR etc control.

I'd like to ask this from the Russian Embassy, and Kremlin;
- 1; Since 2020 what have you been doing to stop this anti-social, racist-communist human-rights crime against my life?
I started to express my opinion with banners in front of Russian embassy on 08-31-2020 in Budapest. And under this persecution I met with many nice Russians whom I want to respect, - but for me this USA-Russia peace negotiation in Saudi Arabia just uncovered the radical/fanatic pro-Soviet part of the FSB, SVR etc (the KGB ideology), it's like a missing / hidden puzzle stepped out from behind of the nice Russians' back.
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- For example in 2021, one of the provocateurs of the crypto- and pro- communist agent families shouted this to me from across the street in my town; "What's up! Have you accepted your destiny yet!?", months before, he arrogantly protected the persecution against me in front of the Kazincbarcika police station in my town, while I was expressing my opinion there with my banners.
- 2; What destiny is promised for you and for this kind of people and for people like me by the Kremlin and by the UN law?
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- 3; Why was it that your embassy and your country refused to give me legal help and money aid to buy food for myself when I asked it in November 2023?
- Well Brit and USA embassies also refused me, - but for example, according to the news, the French Marine Le Pen received a lot of money from Russia to help her political career and campaigns. - And in 2021 Viktor Orbán PM (and Lőrinc Mészáros oligarch) who are known as the friends of Kremlin also gave her money, and some news also say the origin of that money was from Russia to influence election in the EU-NATO member France.
- I just don't understand this; -Russia can give money to support / influence politics and propaganda, etc in the EU-NATO world, but I'm refused, though I need money to buy food, because of my rights to live, and that ideology persecutes me which originates from Russia.

I'd like to ask this from the U.S.A. of Embassy;
If so far the USA - Russia peace negotiation was successful in Saudi Arabia (and I hope there will be real peace soon) then;
- Why can't the security part of the American NATO convince Prime Minister Viktor Orbán to stop this ex-KGB human rights crime and genocide in the NATO member Hungary?
I started to express my opinion with banners in front of USA embassy on 11-15-2023 in Budapest, and on 03-13-2024 the embassy looked at my banners and said; "It's the FIDESZ", (the banners attached as 20240313BannerBp.pdf).
And I don't know; where and why stops the termination, condemnation of this human rights crime, genocide, for example in the security part of the American NATO, and politics.
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Note: I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without help of people I met in Malaysia, most were Muslims, and God proved that their help forced the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution, and not the Malaysian politicians etc because they're corrupt.
Sincerely Mr Norbert Kimár
** 2 ** And I found this very interesting article;
"In Russia, dozens of dissenters are held as psychiatric patients"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-dozen ... 16987.html
https : //www .yahoo. com/news/russia-dozens-dissenters-held-psychiatric-070316987. html
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113347636
https : //www .democraticunderground. com/113347636
..political abuse of psychiatry....
Russia's justice ministry, human rights commissioner and the Kremlin did not reply to requests for comment about the alleged use of psychiatry for political purposes.....
In the Soviet era, thousands of dissenters were hospitalised for political reasons, based on the premise that only someone mentally ill would oppose the Communist state. Among the best known cases were those of dissident Vladimir Bukovsky and Nobel prize-winning poet Joseph Brodsky....
Pūras said an erosion of democratic reforms in Russia had a "detrimental impact on Russian psychiatry," cautioning that Russia's use of state-appointed psychiatrists in court cases likely leads to decisions that serve the interests of national authorities....
For those admitted as psychiatric patients, additional trauma stems from the open-ended nature of their detention and the fact that their sanity is being called into question, van Voren said....
"This is punitive psychiatry," Suvorova said in a telephone interview. "The aim of this whole thing is to defame me, belittle my contribution ...
and to slander me and make people no longer trust me."...
Yekaterina Fatyanova, 37, was interned on April 28 last year at the KKPND No.1 psychiatric hospital in her home city of Krasnoyarsk after being accused of discrediting the Russian armed forces by publishing an article in a small opposition newspaper she ran in her spare time. She was not the author of the piece, which argued the war in Ukraine was driven by imperialist motives.
This talks about how USSR / Russia has been using psychiatric fraud to silent, discredit its citizens, and right now they use it to silent the anti-war and other activists, journalists etc even orphans.
Well this crime works even here in Hungary because there are enough half- and un-educated people who don't understand this, and there is no real ideology which could help the victims of this kind of human rights crimes.
Honestly I never thought either that they are that evil, but since this crime started, and I still can't believe how arrogantly and radically low IQ evil they are, they still want to force on me their psychiatric fraud while even 10,000km away some Muslims, and some Falun Dafa / Gong know them as this is an east-European public servants crime from communism..
knorbert
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Re: ethic problem by psychiatric examination

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I'd like to post the followings here too in case somebody has no time to read my longer topic, I was thinking about what else I should do more, and I put together my thoughts and these are the steps toward what I should do next;

** A **
On April - 28 - 2025, I sent this email to USA Embassy, FBI, CIA and NATO, its subject; "Megerősítő válasz
kérése / Asking confirmation reply".
This email was about what the USA Embassy said me in my expressing opinion / protest on April-16-2025. So I asked them to confirm the result, and I'm not happy for this result, and I hope it was just a misunderstanding;
The security organizations of the USA at NATO never had any kind of duties against the ex-KGB human rights
crimes in Hungary.
But if the embassy would confirm this result, then I really think that many if not each NATO member countries / embassies would join USA. And sure NATO rules and international laws don't allow this because NATO wouldn't be "defence" but oppressor military organisation, and fact is each NATO member country corruptly voted in 1999, and the rest members later joined this human rights crime, corruption, but fact is that's how NATO have been working. Well if they say "yes" then at least a part would be over of this persecution, but as in a divorce way. - The Embassy didn't respond so far, and probably they never will say "yes" or "no", because it's a catch 22, because the EU-NATO intelligences weaponised their own weakness. The USA is a rabbit in this persecution (they can't really act as an eagle in this), they don't want to let go the crisis and they can't stop it either. Because EU-NATO securities already gave full control to the ex-KGB in east-EU. And the rest of non ex-communist NATO-EU member countries are in the same catch 22. Honestly I think the West especially USA is just barking without being able to bite really hard ex-KGB, FSB etc.

** B **
In my last protest the Canadian Embassy made a nice turn to make peace between me and its security guards.
And I only found Canada which helped troubled Hungarian citizens but those were only Hungarian gypsies. So I was thinking about asking help from Canada, and from the Hungarian gypsies human rights org in Canada. - But fact is that my enemies and their lobbies can easily throw monkey wrench in it, and they could do it when they wish it. So my enemies would just playing (f-ing) with me and jam my case with their misleading tricks. And the national security politics in Hungary is this; "gypsies and native Hungarians must hate each other" and honestly both are two different cultures so it would be a piece of cake trap.
- As I said in my earlier post in this forum that one of the main successes of gypsies is that they've no problem to fight back physically against the racist corrupt authorities, public servants etc. Unlike me, well I'm alone in my own country so I use banners, and fact is my enemies and their EU-NATO friends don't like it but they ignore it without any consequences. Sure sometimes they're upset including EU-NATO member embassies too, and ICC is now a real headache for them because of Israeli PM.
- The solution should be here what the Romanian Embassy tried "Do you want us to talk to the authorities?".

** C **
I sent email to EU-NATO countries on June 15, it was about my protest/ expressing opinion in Budapest on 04-June-2025. email's subject "#7, NATO-EU Korrupció, és Rasszizmus / NATO-EU Corruption, and Racism".
Sadly for example many EU-NATO embassies tried to use the police to ban my expressing opinion in front of them. And this is an interesting part of my email;
The corrupt use of police is aimed at censoring information about racist crime. And it also encourages human rights criminal public officials/ public servants to be more evil. The fanatically criminal Hungarian public officials/ public servants should watch the videos of the survivor Srebrenica massacre victims to learn how some EU-NATO countries acted before and after the genocide was known for public.
** D **
Hungarians had an election about to join NATO or not, and my father was campaigning against NATO, and my father told me his reasons, he even said me Hungary can't join NATO because something is not legal to do that. Well this persecution against me explained what was that "not legal" part, but maybe there are more.
So anyway my father was campaigning against NATO but after the election my father accepted the result, and we too the victims of communist crimes paid tax to the NATO also, - and usually the racist communist families have been paying less percent of taxes than the victims of communist crimes, because Hungarian communists / ex-KGB (including Orban PM) etc families have been stealing anything with impunity and they always blame it on others like on us.
** E ** So I should target the corruptions and human rights crimes of NATO securities, counter-intelligences.
- Honestly I've been thinking since months about that there are many victims, martyrs of NATO corruptions, crimes everywhere. And I wonder if there is any organisation which fights for the victims of NATO corruptions, human rights crimes etc, because that's what I need.
So far I didn't find any but I just made few search on Internet.
- And as I said in the "A" part of this post, the USA Embassy didn't respond so far, and probably they will never say officially "yes" or "no", because it's a "catch 22" for the entire EU-NATO countries. So EU-NATO intelligences weaponised their own weakness for some reason in 2015 against me. - I and the Russian Embassy talked together in spring of 2021 and we got into the following conclusion "West introduced / promised new rules, laws, services etc after the cold war for reason to prevent problems like this (persecution), and they received / took a lot of money for it, - and if they can't stop it in Hungary then they should have lured me to live work in another EU etc country before I realize what's going on..", (sorry if I didn't quote it word by word but you can find it in some of posts in this forum if you need).

So all together;
1, - The solution should be here what the Romanian Embassy tried "Do you want us to talk to the authorities?".
2, - I should target the corruptions and human rights crimes of NATO securities, counter-intelligences.
- Honestly I've been thinking since months about that there are many victims, martyrs of NATO corruptions, crimes everywhere. And I wonder if there is any organisation which fights for the victims of NATO corruptions, human rights crimes etc, because that's what I need to find or create.
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